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Posted 15 September 2007 - 03:33 PM

I google immaged them and saw this picture

http://www.epa.gov/b..._Img_5640sm.jpg

None of the other pictures looked like that but when I saw that my jaw dropped. Is that the natural breeding colors of this darter?

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 03:57 PM

I've seen some more colorful then that one. Truly a beautiful species.

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 05:12 PM

I would call this fairly average.

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 06:44 PM

I'd say that is below average. Some of the darters of the orangethroat complex in Tennesse and Kentucky were much more colorful than what I saw in Ohio.

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 10:32 PM

Yep, nothing much else to add here.

You get random individuals with excellent coloring, similar to Rainbows, and really any other darter.

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Posted 16 September 2007 - 10:02 PM

This is above average.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:03 PM

My orangethroat is way prettier than that.
My friend catches a lot, and I've never seen one less colorful than that.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:45 PM

Just trying to add to the mix of opinions!

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 01:28 PM

If you want darters, go with orangethroats. They're beautiful as well as inquisitive and fairly active!
They make a great addition to any community setup (and do great on their own!).

Go OT's :-D

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 07:24 PM

Read your American Currents. Chris Scharpf said that Orangethroats might end up split into 17 species.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 02:46 PM

Blacksides are another great type of darter.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 05:35 PM

I want darters but don't know where to find them where I live. :(

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 10:18 AM

I want darters but don't know where to find them where I live. :(

I don't know the Sheboygan area very well, so I cannot help you specifically, but you need to find clean, clear, and cool streams. Darters can be found in pretty small streams. Different darters have different needs, so you will find different types depending on the conditions. You will even find different types in the same stream, some where it is narrow and fast, others where it is wider and slower. And you might pick up some madtoms, suckers, minnows, etc. I am not terribly good with darters, so I cannot tell you which conditions match with which darters.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 02:04 PM

From NatureServe: http://www.natureser...index.jsp#Using

Manitowoc - Sheboygan watershed

Distribution of Native U.S. Fishes by Watershed

(darters) Fish in HUC #4030101

Scientific Name Common Name Occurrence Status

Sander vitreus Walleye Current
Perca flavescens Yellow Perch Current
Percina maculata Blackside Darter Current
Percina caprodes Logperch Current
Etheostoma nigrum Johnny Darter Current
Etheostoma exile Iowa Darter Current
Etheostoma flabellare Fantail Darter Current
Percina phoxocephala Slenderhead Darter Current
Etheostoma microperca Least Darter Historical

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 10:18 PM

Has anyone heard of a pidgeon river in my county? i can walk tehre frommy house. Very easy to get to. Nex summer I will be setting up a darter tank. If it means building a pond for my sunfish. although I'd rather just buy another tank.

I'm mostly interested in logperch/greensides/othroats/rainbows. How many can be kep tin a 40 gallon long? I'll assume I'll have to order them.

EDIT: I may just upgrade to an even larger tank. They won't be eaten by green sunfish or pseeds right?

The woods/river area here is covered in red and white rocks. I think these with driftwood would be a very asthetic tank.

My goal one day is to have a 1.5k gallon tank in a wall sort of deal. With sunfish as a top predator. a sustaining population of minnows and ghost shrimp, with darters and blackstriped topminnows.only problem would be removing sunfish to maintain population. I could just have all males I guess. or potentially all certain genders of different species to try to induce hybreeding(is this a word?).

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 10:28 PM

I could just have all males I guess. or potentially all certain genders of different species to try to induce hybreeding(is this a word?).

Why would anyone want to intentionally hybridize sunfish?

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 08:32 PM

Has anyone heard of a pidgeon river in my county? i can walk tehre frommy house. Very easy to get to. Nex summer I will be setting up a darter tank. If it means building a pond for my sunfish. although I'd rather just buy another tank.



Zep, i remembher my frist beer too

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 12:31 AM

http://www.epa.gov/b..._Img_5640sm.jpg

Wow, to be a average or below, that is pretty amazing. I want 1 :(

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 01:36 AM

http://www.orgs.okst...es/image006.jpg

Ok, how does this guy measure up?

They seem like pretty straightforward fish to breed based on Goldstein's book. Has anyone attempted to produce them in quantity? They are something that almost anyone will trade for/buy on many non native fish forums.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 11:14 AM

http://www.orgs.okst...es/image006.jpg

Ok, how does this guy measure up?


Now that definatly looks like a breeding male! Wonderful coloration! I don't know much about their breeding but it has been disscussed a lot here. I might try to breed them next year though. I'm sure someone else has some more info. for you!




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