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Posted 30 October 2007 - 01:43 PM

Is it possible to get my Largemouth Bass and Channel Cat and Grass Pickeral to eat Floating pellets as opposed to making weekly trips to the Local Pet Shop to pick up Rosy Red Feeders....

I recently got my Channel Cat to eat "Algae Wafers" and "Cichlid Floating Pellets" I was wondering if this is a good diet for a channel cat? or is there something bad about it?

Can I get Largemouth Bass and Grass Pickeral on Cichlid Floating Pellets? What must I do first? Should I not feeding them for a week or more until they are starving and then try it? or is there any other dried food that I can put in there that they might like like maybe flakes or sinking dried foods? I am attempting to eliminate feeders due to the diseases they bring to my aquarium. At the same time I dont want to be wasting a Sh** ton of money on frozen Krill and shrimp and stuff like that.

Let me know what you guys think and what are the necssary steps I should do in order to change their feeding habits.

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 01:49 PM

I am attempting to eliminate feeders due to the diseases they bring to my aquarium.

Try catching feeders from a local stream, I have yet to introduce a disease or parasite from wild feeders.

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 03:18 PM

Being in NYC, he will probably have issues doing so.

In the end, it is better to train natives onto pellets and such. It is a more complete diet. It is funny how people differentiate between natives and tropicals. They are pretty much the same care. It is just that most tropicals are already trained onto pellets/flakes/etc before being purchased.

The problem is that people take adult fish instead of the younger one.

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 03:23 PM

I have heard that gelatin based diet is a first step to getting fish converted over to pellets. You might have to manually make the food swim.

Mazuri Aquatic Gel Diet
or
make your own.

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 04:18 PM

Try worms from the bait store. I'm sure the bass will take them right away. The pickeral probably will if they are wiggly enough.
In general bass are more likely to try new foods. The pickeral might be stubburn about eating food that doesn't act lively.

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 07:09 PM

Well I got small 3 inch Largemouths and 3 inch channel cat and 3 inch Grass Pickeral. I would say those are pretty young, but being that they are young the seem very stubborn. When I throw the floating pellets in the tank they completely ignore it! Its almost like it doesnt even exist to them. So therefore Im not even sure how to get them to even look at it. The Channel Cat on the other hand seems very open minded about eating and takes whats given to him.

What should I do?

Should I not feed them the feeders for like 2 weeks and then try floating pellets again and see if they compromise?

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 08:37 PM

Pike I think, really need movement to trigger their feeding..it seems they are simply hard wired that way.
Bass can be converted to pellets, it will just take time. Maybe start with some movement, or sinking pellets(bump them on the nose maybe?)
Heck..I have an entire tank of darters that now swim to the surface and take flake food! Some of them flip upside down, to make it easier...interesting to say the least!

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 11:19 PM

Heck..I have an entire tank of darters that now swim to the surface and take flake food! Some of them flip upside down, to make it easier...interesting to say the least!


What species of darter?

I seem to even spoil my shiners; shiners refuse to eat off the tank bottom.

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 03:51 PM

I have my grass pickerel on Hikari Sinking Carnivore pellets. The main action to get them to strike is when the pellets are on their way down to the bottom. After they were on the pellets anything that sank near them was struck at. The pellets are made for like bottom feeding catfish and ive had great luck with them. Also table shrimp is another one of their favorites. I do feed live feeders ocasionally for the entertainment. Also, I have had no trouble with getting LMB on pellets or flakes. Usually i have them off live foods within a few days of getting them.

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 12:32 AM

What species of darter?

I seem to even spoil my shiners; shiners refuse to eat off the tank bottom.

Rainbows and a lone jonny. The rainbows are the ones that eat off the surface.
Oddly..my school of shiners DO eat off the bottom with no problem at all. THey will root among the hair grass and rocks right along the darters and mud minnows, hunting black worms that may have escaped the initial massacre that usually results from their intro into a tank.

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 08:02 AM

I have a johnny darter that has figured out that when I walk in the room, there is a good chance of food. I have a log with branches coming off of it that has not sunk yet. Some of the branches are submerged in the water. When I walk in the room, he proceeds to swim up to the log and rest on the branches waiting for flake or frozen, whichever I give that day.

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 07:01 PM

I have an intresting situation that is flipped from others experience. My older caught Lepomis megalotis takes pellets and flakes with no problem. My juvenille Lepomis microlophus completly refuses them as food. He/she will put them in his mouth and then spit it back up. I have had succuss with both fishes when feeding frozen mosquito larva, and mysis shrimp, and now both eat feeder guppies.




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