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Non Fish Id If Possible

Started by Guest_nativecollector_* , Nov 20 2007 09:53 PM

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#1 Guest_nativecollector_*

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 09:53 PM

My son has a tank that has a broadhead skink and a five line skink in it, and all the dirt and grass in the tank is from the woods around the house. Today when I got home I went to mist the tank and I found these bunched up on the side of the glass.
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Also what is the scientific name for this guy.
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#2 Guest_Kanus_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 03:30 PM

I don't know much about snails, but those little bugs are some type of true bug. I looked around and found this picture of an assassin bug nymph. If it is these guys, I would probably put them outside since if they get loose and get bigger they could put a nasty bite on you. If they are wider and flattened (I can't tell from the picture) then they may be stinkbugs, which would probably be good skink food.

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#3 Guest_nativecollector_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 07:37 PM

Thanks for that info,

when you look at them close up they look like a lady bug but with a longer black front. I dont think they are assassin bug but I will take a closer look when I get home. I did have to knock them off the side of the tank as they were getting to close to the top, the fiveline skink acting as if he wated to eat them but never made a move to get it. It may have been because I was watching. They dont like to be watched to much.

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#4 Guest_killier_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 08:42 PM

those are bugs only 6 legs

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#5 Guest_Kanus_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 09:19 PM

those are bugs only 6 legs

What?

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#6 Guest_killier_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 09:41 PM

if you look up close you can see the fact the group of bugs have only 6 legs versus being spiders which have 8 legs

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#7 Guest_nativecollector_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 10:12 PM

if you look up close you can see the fact the group of bugs have only 6 legs versus being spiders which have 8 legs

This I do agree with, I should have saved everyone the trouble and stated that they only have 6 legs.

After looking for awhile I have figured out that they are NOT the assassin bugs, and also they are not miniture lady bugs.

What I cannot figure out is whether or not they are in a larval stage or if they are in the first stages after a larval stage. I have even looked in the insect book for North Carolina and if they are in there they do not show this stage of life. I am still looking but if someone figures it out please let me know.

Thanks everyone for the help with it.

Pat(NC)

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#8 Guest_FishandFire_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 11:03 PM

Nymph Wheel Bugs?

http://www.ces.ncsu....e65/note65.html

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#9 Guest_fishlvr_*

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 11:17 PM

These insects appear more beetle-like, and don't have the elongate head and thorax of the Assassin bugs and relatives. A closer pic (if possible) would further help with identification.

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#10 Guest_nativecollector_*

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 05:53 AM

These insects appear more beetle-like, and don't have the elongate head and thorax of the Assassin bugs and relatives. A closer pic (if possible) would further help with identification.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

with that out of the way at oh dark thirty in the morning, when I get back home today I will see if I can get a better or a closer pic of them. I will also double check the leg count, after taking a look at the pics they may have 8 legs, but I could have sworn that I had only counted 6.

Pat(NC)

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#11 Guest_Mysteryman_*

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 10:05 AM

They look like little beetles to me, but I guess they could be early instars of something else, and probably are since they likely just hatched out of something in the tank.

Cogwheel bugs... ugh. I HATE those things. They're everywhere down here, and they bite like you wouldn't believe. I got hit in the palm of my hand once when I was about 12, and I bawled like a baby for over an hour. I think crucifixion would have probably hurt less. I got mauled by bees once when a hive fell over, and that hurt less than that stupid bug bite. I still have the scar. Yes, scar. Having a portion of you quickly digested while still alive tends to leave a permanent memento of the occasion.
HATE 'em. Hate.
I got bit by a Gila Monster once too. That hurt a lot more than the bug bite. However, not much else has come even close, I think.
Trust me, if you ever see one of these otherwise fascinating insects, do NOT pick it up or let it walk on you. I don't know if the others of this family are as nasty, and they probably aren't since they're so much smaller on average, but you shouldn't trust them, either.
At least we don't have Chagas' Disease up here. (Yet.) These bugs spread that fun little affliction with their bite, and I don't think there's a cure for human heartworms yet.

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#12 Guest_edbihary_*

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 03:24 PM

I wouldn't worry about what they are. Just get the skinks out of the tank, spray it with Raid, wash the tank, and put your skinks back. Better to eradicate the unknown buggers, just in case.

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#13 Guest_Kanus_*

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 04:07 PM

Look up the nymph of a Harlequin bug, they may be more similar to what you have. I'm very doubtful they are spiders, as spiders usually are only gregarious while still hanging to the egg sack, plus I've never seen a native spider with that coloration, especially not babies.

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#14 Guest_nativecollector_*

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 06:51 PM

Look up the nymph of a Harlequin bug, they may be more similar to what you have. I'm very doubtful they are spiders, as spiders usually are only gregarious while still hanging to the egg sack, plus I've never seen a native spider with that coloration, especially not babies.

They are bugs without a doubt. Just got home and checked them out and there is only six legs.

They look different than the Harlequin Bug in that the shell part of the body (winged area) is separated from the head part. Just as if there is two separate sections, after looking up the Harlequin I noticed that thier head area even as a nymph appears to be attached directly to the main part of the body.

My wife has the camera and she will not be home until at the earliest tomorrow, but possible not until Sat. When she gets here I will take some closer pics if I can get them in focus. Those pics were taken at about 10 inches away and zoomed in so I dont know how much closer I can get.

Oh yeah how long does it take to receive the registration conformation for the nanfa gallery sign up. I signed up for it Tuesday or Wednesday and I still have not received the conformation email.

Pat(NC)

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#15 Guest_Irate Mormon_*

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 07:22 PM

I still have not received the conformation email.

That's because you refuse to conform

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#16 Guest_nativecollector_*

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 10:47 PM

That's because you refuse to conform

This comming from an Irate person, and who refuses to conform

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#17 Guest_nativecollector_*

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Posted 25 November 2007 - 08:45 PM

Ok I got two more pics but I dont think they are any better than the other ones were. These guys are rather small.

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If you can tell it the little black mark on thier backs look like a number 8. They seem to be fairly content to stay in the tank, they could easily get out of several small holes but instead just stay inside. I did find them just outside of one of the holes but pushed them back in and there they have stayed.

I have looked at just about every nymph and many adult bugs and have yet to see one that I can say YES that is it.