Boston, Ma November 24, 2007
#1 Guest_diburning_*
Posted 24 November 2007 - 07:17 PM
Here's the bullhead in his acclimation bucket. I am not sure what kind he is yet. (I haven't seen his chin barbels). He's over a foot long. The diameter of the bucket is a foot and he's a little longer than that. (The fish doesn't have ich, the water has small white pieces of crud in it)
The funny part is the price I got him for:
The supermarket gets the fish in regularly from Canada. If this guy survives acclimation, then I will start offering the fish to the NANFA community. (MA Permit: 942129)
The store has yellow and brown bullheads mixed together in a tank with channel cats (at least I think they are channels) The channels are larger than a foot though.
Anything smaller than a foot I'll buy and share. (the market is usually stuck with them because no one really wants the small ones except for the people making soup)
EDIT: Here he is in quarrantine. He's most probably a stunning mustard colored brown. Here's his face:
And another pic
#3 Guest_fishlvr_*
Posted 24 November 2007 - 07:26 PM
If that's a yellow bullhead, I call dibs!!!
#4 Guest_diburning_*
Posted 24 November 2007 - 07:47 PM
The catfish in the tank weren't beat up. They look very good. This is the Super 88 on Commonwealth Ave in Allston.
This bullhead is most likely a brown/black because of it's chin barbels. There are yellows and browns in the tank (although I can't choose, what the guy catches is what I get).
I DO have a permit to sell them so if this guy survives in the quarrantine tank and doesn't develop any diseases, I'll go rescue more and offer them here. (they are a little large to ship though so I'll do overnight only most probably. The fish are only a two bucks or less so overnight isn't too costly)
#8 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 25 November 2007 - 06:11 PM
#9 Guest_diburning_*
Posted 25 November 2007 - 06:39 PM
They MIGHT be from the charles... They keep them in a tank along with common carp... hmm...
Maybe it's legal to sell for food?? I see channels in chinatown markets too, buth they sell out quickly.
If it is from the charles, then I would be dead already... I've bought an eaten them many times. (I wouldn't touch the carp though... the flesh is a mud color)
#10 Guest_mikez_*
Posted 25 November 2007 - 06:54 PM
Don't underestimate the Charles; one of the densest populations of banded killifish (Fundulus diaphanus) I've ever seen was in the Charles at Harvard Square, upstream of the bridge from Allston by the stadium. If you want to attract a crowd, start seining in the Charles during rush hour on a nice day; works like a charm!
Oh, I don't underestimate the number or diversity of fish in the Charles. If it swims, at one time or another it's been found in the Charles. It's not the first place I's choose to harvest my next meal from though. [Don't worry diburning, you won't die, I would limit the number of meals you take from there though].
BTW, banded killies are very numerous throughout eastern Ma in clear, cold lakes. Famous Walden Pond has tons.
#11 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 25 November 2007 - 07:08 PM
And I definitely wouldn't eat any benthic fish out of the Charles, there's just too long a history of abuse and weirdness. And for that matter I avoid fish out of the Tennessee too, especially downstream of Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. "The X Files" has some toehold in reality....
#12 Guest_mikez_*
Posted 25 November 2007 - 07:49 PM
Yeah, banded killies are pretty much everywhere even in ponds that aren't so clear and cold, like Gibbs Pond on Nantucket and Maquan Pond in Hanson. Next time I'm in New England I want to pick up some as aquarium fish, they always did well and look good in an understated way.
And I definitely wouldn't eat any benthic fish out of the Charles, there's just too long a history of abuse and weirdness. And for that matter I avoid fish out of the Tennessee too, especially downstream of Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. "The X Files" has some toehold in reality....
They are nice. The males at spawning time even approach being colorful by New England standards.
Gimme a heads up if you do come up this way. I've got a nice population of banded killies 5 minutes from my house.
#13 Guest_ashtonmj_*
Posted 25 November 2007 - 08:11 PM
And I definitely wouldn't eat any benthic fish out of the Charles, there's just too long a history of abuse and weirdness. And for that matter I avoid fish out of the Tennessee too, especially downstream of Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. "The X Files" has some toehold in reality....
But would you eat fish upstream of Chattanooga, downstream of Oak Ridge, or around Watts Bar? I'm amazed at the lack of fish advisories on that river.
#15 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 25 November 2007 - 09:44 PM
#16 Guest_mikez_*
Posted 26 November 2007 - 12:00 AM
I get my F diaphanus from Belle Isle Marsh. It's a salt marsh up in Revere near Winthrop and Chelsea. They are in full salt water, but can be acclimated to fresh with no problems
Are you sure you're not getting mummichugs in the salt marsh? They look similar with the mummie having a thicker body.
According to Inland Fishes of Massachusetts, F diaphanus "occasionally enters slightly brackish water". I collect both fresh and saltwater and have never seen F diaphanus in anything but clear sandy bottomed freshwater ponds.
#17 Guest_edbihary_*
Posted 26 November 2007 - 09:04 PM
It's cool that you have a permit. But it makes me wonder if it's necessary. Assuming that the market you bought it from is selling them legally, can you just buy them as our agent, and ship them? Is that lawful? Not that I want one, I just thought I'd ask, since I don't really know. If I gave you a buck, and asked you to buy me a lottery ticket the next time you went to a convenience store, nobody would question that, even though you're not an agent of the state lottery. Would it work the same with fish?I DO have a permit to sell them so if this guy survives in the quarrantine tank and doesn't develop any diseases, I'll go rescue more and offer them here. (they are a little large to ship though so I'll do overnight only most probably. The fish are only a two bucks or less so overnight isn't too costly)
Since you do have a permit, you could probably be listed on the Commercial Vendors section of the forum, if you want.
#18 Guest_diburning_*
Posted 30 November 2007 - 12:37 AM
F Diaphanus are found in the marsh along with mummichogs. The marsh is full strength seawater most of the time. I know that the fish I have is a F diaphanus because it is all white with small black stripes which is consistant with a diaphanus. Wildlife surveys done in the marsh also has data that diaphanus live in that marsh.
#19 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 30 November 2007 - 09:42 AM
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#20 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 30 November 2007 - 10:46 AM
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