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Is this a carp?

Started by Guest_tglassburner_* , Dec 26 2007 09:22 PM

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#1 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 09:22 PM

Is this a carp? Or is it a drum?

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#2 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 09:30 PM

Just go ahead and kill it. :-D

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#3 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 09:41 PM

Just go ahead and kill it.

I take it That's a carp?

I dispatched a few round gobies today. Ed, and I also found 1 mudminnow, and several shiners, which I'm working on IDing

The mudminnow was in a high flow area not where we expected it to be so it was a pleasant surprise.

All these were collected in Arcola Creek in Lake County Ohio. Can't find an HUC for it, although it is it's own watershed.

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#4 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 09:49 PM

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#5 Guest_rockbassbud5_*

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 11:26 PM

How big is (was) that carp? (if it is a carp which I assume it is by skipjack's reply!) lol :eek:

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#6 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 08:54 AM

How big is (was) that carp? (if it is a carp which I assume it is by skipjack's reply!) lol

~2"

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#7 Guest_ashtonmj_*

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:05 AM

Tom, did you notice the HUC number on the landuse map since you said you couldn't find one?

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#8 Guest_andyavram_*

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 11:26 AM

Stay out of my parks!

Were you out at the estuary? or further from the lake? The estuary is the a sore spot for me. It has one of the few populations of NE Ohio Fowler's Toads and I haven't been able to find an adult (one possible juvenile) there and I look a few times a year.

Seriously though, if you were in the Lake Metroparks drop me a line sometime, that is where I am a naturalist for.

Also, what is a HUC number, I never heard of the them before this website (I feel pretty stupid about this)?

Lastly, I agree... carp.

Andy

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#9 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 11:56 AM

Stay out of my parks!

Were you out at the estuary? or further from the lake? The estuary is the a sore spot for me. It has one of the few populations of NE Ohio Fowler's Toads and I haven't been able to find an adult (one possible juvenile) there and I look a few times a year.

Seriously though, if you were in the Lake Metroparks drop me a line sometime, that is where I am a naturalist for.

Also, what is a HUC number, I never heard of the them before this website (I feel pretty stupid about this)?

Lastly, I agree... carp.

Andy

HUC- Hydrologic Unit Code

We were just off Cashen Rd., next to the WWTP. We found a few small round gobies there but they met the bottom of my boot pretty quick. I thought the fish was a carp when I saw it in the net, It met my boot as well. I just wated to be sure before I smooshed it.

We did go to the estuary, but there was to many people fishing to even sample the water, plus the 2" thick Ice on all the spots we wanted to investigate kinda hindered seining.

I'll send you a PM next time I'm up that way. Is Helen Hazen Wyman Park in Painesville open? All the roads to get there seem to be closed.

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#10 Guest_andyavram_*

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 12:18 PM

It is open but there is only like one way there and I got lost trying to find it for a program last summer. For now I just stay away from the area.

Andy

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#11 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 05:57 PM

I loved Lake Metroparks!!! Note the past tense... I used to seine out that way when I lived in Cleveland (about 5 yrs ago)... there was a park somewhat east of Painseville that I used to go to (I loved in Mentor at the time) that accessed the Grand River (only a dirt road in/out)... I always got a few good darters there... rainbows for sure!

Stay out of my parks!

Were you out at the estuary? or further from the lake? The estuary is the a sore spot for me. It has one of the few populations of NE Ohio Fowler's Toads and I haven't been able to find an adult (one possible juvenile) there and I look a few times a year.

Seriously though, if you were in the Lake Metroparks drop me a line sometime, that is where I am a naturalist for.

Also, what is a HUC number, I never heard of the them before this website (I feel pretty stupid about this)?

Lastly, I agree... carp.

Andy

Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing. - Benjamin Franklin

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#12 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 09:03 PM

BTW, its a carp.

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#13 Guest_andyavram_*

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:20 AM

Michael,

Trying to think of what park would have been around in that area 5 years ago. We have added 2 parks around Painesville but only since I have been there 4 years ago. Maybe Mason's Landing? Had a little playground with a dirst path leading away from it. Right off Vrooman Road (and near my favorite park Indian Point - some good herp and fish action there).

Andy

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#14 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:44 PM

Michael,

Trying to think of what park would have been around in that area 5 years ago. We have added 2 parks around Painesville but only since I have been there 4 years ago. Maybe Mason's Landing? Had a little playground with a dirst path leading away from it. Right off Vrooman Road (and near my favorite park Indian Point - some good herp and fish action there).

Andy

I would guess Indian Point off of Seely road which is off of Vrooman

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#15 Guest_andyavram_*

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:37 PM

Tom, I think you're right it is Indian Point. I read "dirt path" when Michael wrote "dirt road" and Mason's Landing has a long dirt path. I saw my only Lake County Mudpuppy in that park and one day I will catch some of the Softshells and Map Turtles. Two years ago I nabbed a 1.5' gar with a large rip in its side so I could see all its organs. He swam slow but I imagine didn't live long.

Andy

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#16 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:57 PM

Tom, I think you're right it is Indian Point. I read "dirt path" when Michael wrote "dirt road" and Mason's Landing has a long dirt path. I saw my only Lake County Mudpuppy in that park and one day I will catch some of the Softshells and Map Turtles. Two years ago I nabbed a 1.5' gar with a large rip in its side so I could see all its organs. He swam slow but I imagine didn't live long.

Andy

I had to read it twice, but thats where i put in and walk about 2 miles upstream.

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#17 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 09:53 AM

That sounds about right... it was easy access and my seining partners were only elementary school age back then, so I didn't walk them far... we always were able to get some fish and keep the seining partners entertained while I got my fishy fix...

I would guess Indian Point off of Seely road which is off of Vrooman

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#18 Guest_bpkeck_*

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 10:57 PM

Did it have barbels??? From the pic it looks like it doesn't have barbels, which would make it a goldfish, Carassius auritus, and not a common carp, Cyprinus carpio. Granted they are both really carp, but still a difference.

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#19 Guest_Brooklamprey_*

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 11:23 PM

Did it have barbels??? From the pic it looks like it doesn't have barbels, which would make it a goldfish, Carassius auritus, and not a common carp, Cyprinus carpio. Granted they are both really carp, but still a difference.

It's a common carp...

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#20 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 07:48 AM

Did it have barbels??? From the pic it looks like it doesn't have barbels, which would make it a goldfish, Carassius auritus, and not a common carp, Cyprinus carpio. Granted they are both really carp, but still a difference.

It did they just weren't showing up in the photo.