are you going to have any northern longears any time soon for sale?
NORTHERN LONGEARS
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, Dec 31 2007 11:39 PM
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Posted 03 January 2008 - 09:26 AM
I am planing on breeding some more next spring so maybe by July we will have them for sale once again.
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Posted 06 January 2008 - 08:07 AM
sweet!! cant waitI am planing on breeding some more next spring so maybe by July we will have them for sale once again.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 06:06 PM
sweet!! cant wait
Here are some of the longears that I ordered from Zimmermans. They were less than an inch not that long ago, and all of them are doing great and preparing to spawn it looks like. In one of the pictures a male is waving his tail back and forth in my aquarium gravel to prepare a nest pit in which to deposit eggs I believe. The females grew much much slower than the males and I'm not sure they are ready to breed yet, but the males sure are.
Brian Craig
High Point, NC
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 11:17 PM
Mine were doing the same exact thing a few months ago. They did succeed in spawning but I was unable to catch them in time and the male ended up killing the female. Afterwards he proceeded to eat the eggs. I managed to gather a few of them and some hatched but none ended up surviving. The incident now ranks as one of my most depressing fishkeeping moments. I would like to try again but don't think it would be wise to use another Zimmerman longear (I assume they're related).
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 12:17 AM
Arthur, Are you worried about a one generation inbred sunfish breeding?
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:24 AM
Arthur, Are you worried about a one generation inbred sunfish breeding?
Not particularly. I know you can inbred them for quite a few generations without a problem and I have done it before with tropicals. I would just prefer not to if I can avoid it. I want to try again so if that means I need to buy more from Brian then I'll do so. I suppose my last message may have conveyed a bit more concern about the subject then I originally meant it to.
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:46 AM
Not particularly. I know you can inbred them for quite a few generations without a problem and I have done it before with tropicals. I would just prefer not to if I can avoid it. I want to try again so if that means I need to buy more from Brian then I'll do so. I suppose my last message may have conveyed a bit more concern about the subject then I originally meant it to.
I wouldn't worry about it for aquarium stock, but I think it might be a problem even for release into self contained "ponds". Heck, there have been a number of publications about how hatchery fish (assumedly with a lot of genetic variation) already have trouble due to artificial selection while rearing the fry. This could be compounded if related fishes were used.
I can see it now... "hey... what a pretty heron... I wonder if he'll dump in some pellets?"
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 02:37 PM
They would be different parents of no relation if I spawn them again. They are a fish I can get relatively locally and with such species I try to use a new stock when I breed something I have previously bred. I have not bred that species for 2 summers and there has been some interest in them so I am working on getting a new breeding group together now. So far I just have a female but I will likely make a trip to get some more soon and if all goes well they should be one of the species available this coming summer.
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