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Posted 07 January 2008 - 10:58 AM

I'd like to get a few basic natives, probably yellowfin shiners. I have an extra 10g with an Aquaclear 30. I have a sponge pre-filter on the intake with double sponges inside. There is also some floating water sprite that I can put in it. Am I on the right track? With this much filtration, about how many shiners could I safely keep? Also, would this be too much current for them? Thanks!

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 11:03 AM

Others may disagree, but I think a 10G tank is going to be very confining for a fish that likes to move fast and school with many others of its kind.

There are many other natives that will do outstanding in a 10G tank, but shiners wouldn't come to mind in that group.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 11:21 AM

I'm certainly open to suggestions. Thanks!

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 11:25 AM

If your primary goal is to have the shiners, I would suggest a larger tank. Maybe 30 gallons?

If your primary goal is to make use of the tank that you already have, there are a number of fine alternatives. Darters, pygmy sunfish, killies, etc.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 01:38 PM

There are lots of smaller native fish species such as madtoms, least killies, smaller non fundulus species, pygmy sunfishes, gambusia species (not affinis), swampfish and stickleback species.

Im not sure if its okay to use few suitable minnow species for your 10gal tank so ill leave it to the experts.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 05:31 PM

Any suggestions of small fish that would be suitable for a 10g? Maybe some that can be collected in the Savannah River area?

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:56 PM

Any suggestions of small fish that would be suitable for a 10g? Maybe some that can be collected in the Savannah River area?

I have never had a problem with shiners in a 10 gallon I could see a tank with a few lowlands or yellowfins and maybe some blackbandeds or swamp darters

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 11:26 PM

If you limit it to 5 or 6 yellowfins, they would be OK in a 10 gallon... longer would be better just like other have said, but if yellowfins are what's close to you, there is nothing wrong with a few in a 10g... and to answer you rother question... there is no such thing as too much current for a yellowfin, they will be fine with anything you can generate in a 10g... I would recommend a top for a tank that small as they do flash about some and can jump.

I also agree iwth killier that a few pteronotropis would be better (lowlands are the one down your way I think)... they like a little less current and are a little calmer fish... and would do well with a couple of swamp darters underneath... actually that would make a great 10 gallon... 5 lowland shiners and 3 swamp darters....

Any suggestions of small fish that would be suitable for a 10g? Maybe some that can be collected in the Savannah River area?


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Posted 10 January 2008 - 08:21 PM

I also agree iwth killier that a few pteronotropis would be better (lowlands are the one down your way I think)... they like a little less current and are a little calmer fish...



Yup. Not all shiners are equal. Remember, LOTS of tropical shiners do great in a 10.




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