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Posted 07 January 2008 - 08:33 PM

I found at Petsmart in Midland, MI. There were four of them. I asked someone what they were, and they said they were just fancy female guppies. I think they're a little too big for that, seeing as how they're about 2.5" long.
I was thinking they were gambusia georgei, but then I found out these are probably extinct.
BTW, babies? Soon?

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 08:52 PM

Look at NANFA Forum > Native Fish Resources > Identification Assistance >A Doofy Question from a few days ago. I asked for ID on the same fish. The consensus seemed to be a hybrid. Here's a quote from Brooklampry: "Xiphophorus variatus or X. maculatus or combination of... " Hope this helps!
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 08:55 PM

that is a fancy female guppy

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 09:42 PM

that is a fancy female guppy

Isn't this the same species of fish I posted before?

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 10:36 PM

It looks like a female micarif sunset guppy, just another fancy strain..this female looks like soon to dropping the fry. 2.5" is pretty big for a fancy guppy.

Truf, your fish are just a hybrid platy of some xiphophorus species. This guppy is poecilia reticulata.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 06:45 AM

2.5" is pretty big for a fancy guppy.


That's what I was thinking. I was one of the smaller ones too.
I went over and looked at the female fancy guppies, and they were like half the size.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:15 AM

Those fish are obviously from good stock with good genetics. 2.5 to 3 inches is not really uncommon for a good guppy strain.

Most of the Fancy guppies you see in stores are really inbred Mass aquacultured crap fish. I would guess these more likely came from a private breeding source. This really would not surprise me as your in a major area for good livebearer breeders..

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:22 AM

Isn't this the same species of fish I posted before?


Yours was a Xiph. maculatus or Xiph. variatus this is definitely a guppy

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:08 AM

Have you heard "superguppy" or giant guppy? They are huge, same size as full grown female gambusia. But they are uncommon in back then, and now they are bred for its size.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:17 AM

Have you heard "superguppy" or giant guppy? They are huge, same size as full grown female gambusia. But they are uncommon in back then, and now they are bred for its size.

I've heard of them but never seen them.

Gambusia are good for feeders ;) so I'd imagine the superguppy would be too. That's about the only benefit I can see to larger guppies.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:48 PM

I've heard of them but never seen them.

Gambusia are good for feeders ;) so I'd imagine the superguppy would be too. That's about the only benefit I can see to larger guppies.


I was trying to breed my gambusia's because the fry would be great for some of the smaller fish I have, but the male disappeared.
Since this guppy is considerably larger than normal ones, does that mean the fry would be large too?

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:52 PM

I was trying to breed my gambusia's because the fry would be great for some of the smaller fish I have, but the male disappeared.
Since this guppy is considerably larger than normal ones, does that mean the fry would be large too?

Maybe, but i dont think the difference would be all that great. I've had some huge females and the fry were all about the same size.

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:25 PM

The giant guppy's newborn fry looks same as fancy guppy fry...so its not really lots of differences between them, just different adult size.

Gambusia hybridizing with guppy are not often always sucessful due to lots of factors. Female gambusia will eat smaller male guppies and will kill fancy guppy males. Male gambusia/ female fancy guppy combo can work but the nipping won't be stop and very diffuclt to tell which fry are hybrid or not since mostly female guppies are already bred and very few virgin guppies offered for sale.

Newborn gambusia fry are a little bigger than newborn guppy fry.

Is just me, or the guppies looks like gambusia very much than mollies?




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