Bluegill & Pumkinseed ID's

What I thought was a 20 or so baby bluegills, now I see some Pseeds in the mix. When I'm looking down at them I can never tell the difference because of the bars I see on the back. Of course it's obvious after a closer look. I collected everything at the same time last year right before winter. Now that I found hem so closely mixed in, do you think there can be ay "h"'s in there too?

Pumpkin
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Bluegill
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Both
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All comments welcome. Dont you like have these fish? What are your opinions on them?

It is not impossible that you could have some hybrids as well but these two don't appear to be and if there are good numbers of both species it is less likely you will find "H"s. You typically get "H"s when you have a lot of one species and very few of another which makes finding a proper mate difficult.

Yeah, Brian's analysis is the good one. I see only b'gills and p'seeds in the pictures.

It is not impossible that you could have some hybrids as well but these two don't appear to be and if there are good numbers of both species it is less likely you will find "H"s. You typically get "H"s when you have a lot of one species and very few of another which makes finding a proper mate difficult.

AHH I see says the blind man. So if searching for h's looking for locations that are being over runned by one species is going to caused forced breeding. Makes sense!!! Thank you for the info. I'm just someone that likes that hunt and fun of collecting. I have no real education besides nanfa on natives. I wish I could teach every hacker like myself the best ways of doing this without damaging our resources. THings like endangerd species, legallity, code of ethics, and most important that if you do take something from the wild you have the nessasry means of keeping it till it dies! I think many forget when collecting for the first times. So anyhow sorry for the ramble, thank you again!

For what it is worth I also agree that those are both pure pumpkinseed and bluegill. Both are very common around here and personally I have never found a hybrid of the two. Not even in small farm ponds where such hybrids (I would think) might be more common.