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Fish Lice on Esox niger
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 11:57 PM
The other day I caught this 14-inch TL E. niger. When I got it home, I noticed the fish lice crawling upon it. Pretty gross, but interesting so I thought I would share it here. Enjoy!
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 12:08 AM
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 01:08 AM
I'm more interested in the tank than the Argulus...
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 01:19 AM
The tank is a home-made 30-gallon block tank. It measures 24x24x12 inches and is made from 1/2-inch oak plywood and resin with an aluminum rim for the glass top. I have a few of these. Easy to make. Let me know if you want more pics of it. Thanks.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 09:50 AM
How much do they cost you to build? (i.e. what is the cost of the materials?)
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 09:39 PM
I for one am very interested, all details you can give are appreciated.
also what is the upkeep/maintence like?
Thanks,
Jeremey
also what is the upkeep/maintence like?
Thanks,
Jeremey
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Posted 07 October 2006 - 11:52 PM
Hey ya'll,
Thanks for the comments on the tank. That one is the first that was built out of the 4 that my friend has....he doesn't do the message board thing so I cannot have him explain the process. I was only a helper to his extreme skillz in building plywood tanks. He was thinking about building a few and trying to sell them. Basically, using the 12-inch tall standard, he has built them at 2-foot, 3-foot, and 4-foot lengths. All are 2-feet deep, too. They cost about $100.00 to $150.00 by the time they are done.
He has expressed interest in building some more, this time we thought they would be nicer if we stained them with various types of stain, and we also talked about a poly-resin coating, such as gloss black. He (Kevin) is building an extreme tank....about 500 gallons.....all out of oak (marine-grade) plywood and plate glass from an old 150-gallon All-Glass tank.
I'll set up a couple of the dry ones for the pickerel that I am catching for some of the members here and maybe Kevin will want to sell the tanks, too. BTW, he is an expert collector when it comes to NA natives.....perhaps I can entice him to stop by
As for the upkeep, I think the one thing that I will do differently next time, and Kevin agrees, is to not use silicone on top of the resin along the seams. The resin is far more stronger and the silicone is basically just sitting there. We will, however, continue to place the glass in a bead of silicone, which is spread along the inside window area of the tank's front pane. Aside from gentle scrubbing with an algae pad, no other speacial treatments are needed.
Cheers,
--AT
Thanks for the comments on the tank. That one is the first that was built out of the 4 that my friend has....he doesn't do the message board thing so I cannot have him explain the process. I was only a helper to his extreme skillz in building plywood tanks. He was thinking about building a few and trying to sell them. Basically, using the 12-inch tall standard, he has built them at 2-foot, 3-foot, and 4-foot lengths. All are 2-feet deep, too. They cost about $100.00 to $150.00 by the time they are done.
He has expressed interest in building some more, this time we thought they would be nicer if we stained them with various types of stain, and we also talked about a poly-resin coating, such as gloss black. He (Kevin) is building an extreme tank....about 500 gallons.....all out of oak (marine-grade) plywood and plate glass from an old 150-gallon All-Glass tank.
I'll set up a couple of the dry ones for the pickerel that I am catching for some of the members here and maybe Kevin will want to sell the tanks, too. BTW, he is an expert collector when it comes to NA natives.....perhaps I can entice him to stop by
As for the upkeep, I think the one thing that I will do differently next time, and Kevin agrees, is to not use silicone on top of the resin along the seams. The resin is far more stronger and the silicone is basically just sitting there. We will, however, continue to place the glass in a bead of silicone, which is spread along the inside window area of the tank's front pane. Aside from gentle scrubbing with an algae pad, no other speacial treatments are needed.
Cheers,
--AT
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 10:17 AM
I for one would love to learn more about this tank building concept.
Are there any concerns as far as longevity, rot or does the resin make these tank last almost indefinatly???
Nic pics by the way!
Are there any concerns as far as longevity, rot or does the resin make these tank last almost indefinatly???
Nic pics by the way!
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 06:19 PM
You wouldn't by chance have any extra redfin pickerel would you....I am trying to replace mine which I found dead this morning. If you are willing please PM me with details.Hey ya'll,
I'll set up a couple of the dry ones for the pickerel that I am catching for some of the members here and maybe Kevin will want to sell the tanks, too. BTW, he is an expert collector when it comes to NA natives.....perhaps I can entice him to stop by
Cheers,
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Chad
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 11:03 PM
That is rather too expensive for a tank that size. It would work if you could scavange the materials, but not if paying retail...
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 12:54 PM
I mostly agree with you but you seem to be forgeting the labor involved. If you cannot do it yourself, but still want one, then you will obviously have to pay for someone else's time to make it for you.That is rather too expensive for a tank that size. It would work if you could scavange the materials, but not if paying retail...
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:06 PM
Don't forget that a certain Auburn/Atlanta team sells used fish tanks at a very, very reasonable price. Great alternative if you are local to either.
Where are the members of this team, anyway? Still on the NANFA listserve?
Where are the members of this team, anyway? Still on the NANFA listserve?
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 03:49 PM
I mostly agree with you but you seem to be forgeting the labor involved. If you cannot do it yourself, but still want one, then you will obviously have to pay for someone else's time to make it for you.That is rather too expensive for a tank that size. It would work if you could scavange the materials, but not if paying retail...
I thought the $100 - $150 was just the materials cost, and did not include labor. I thought you were telling us how much it would cost were we to build our own tanks. At that material cost, I might as well go to my LFS and buy a tank, and save myself the effort. About how much is the materials cost, if you know?
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 04:59 PM
Don't forget that a certain Auburn/Atlanta team sells used fish tanks at a very, very reasonable price. Great alternative if you are local to either.
Where are the members of this team, anyway? Still on the NANFA listserve?
who are you refering to? i am about 3 hours away from Auburn, i would drive that far to get a good deal on a tank.
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 05:01 PM
I'll see if I can hail him via e-mail.
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 10:34 PM
I'll ask Kevin.I thought the $100 - $150 was just the materials cost, and did not include labor. I thought you were telling us how much it would cost were we to build our own tanks. At that material cost, I might as well go to my LFS and buy a tank, and save myself the effort. About how much is the materials cost, if you know?
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 11:18 PM
I'm definitely a do-it-yourselfer and tinkerer. Marine grade plywood is expensive as hell, and not necessary for aquaria. Nice plywood is about $40 a sheet, which would make a nice sized tank, but the kicker is the cost of the glass/acrylic, and the "resin" you use to seal the wood with. Unless you are building a really large tank, or else are able to scavenge the glass, or have a need for a tank of very specific dimensions, it is not cost effective to build your own tanks.
You can buy a 55 for $99 just about anywhere, and that usually includes a hood.
You can buy a 55 for $99 just about anywhere, and that usually includes a hood.
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