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Posted 01 February 2008 - 08:04 PM

I was wondering if anyone knew a source that I could get just a few small rainbow or brown trout from, like a hatchery or something that will sell a few fish

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:23 PM

Um do you know how to take care of these trouts? And why you want them?

These trout are pretty can grow up huge honkers up to 40 pounds and they like cooler temp and current. And please update your location.

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:32 PM

I can do trout. Rainbows. But its gonna cost you. Its a 45 mile drive, to pick them up, and I drive a big truck. PM me if you are ready to spend some cash.

I will not make the trip for less than $100 plus the cost of fish, and shipping

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 10:39 PM

Well I'm certainly not new to keeping natives, I've had an established stream tank going for about 5 years, not to mention the native lake tanks. I kind of took a break from really active involvement in the forums and stuff like that, so I never really got into using this forum. I used to be on Aquatic Predators a lot in the natives section. But anyway regarding the trout, I just wanted to give a small parr a shot and when it gets bigger end up having it in a large rubbermaid trough in the basement where the temp never gets above 66 or so

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 11:04 PM

There might be hatcheries in MA that sell them.

Keeping rainbow trout is not hard. I've done it

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 11:23 PM

I would expect brookies to be a better choice, since they're smaller and actually native. I don't know if they would be as eager to eat as rainbows though. I'm kind of curious about it as well, as I've thought a couple times about trying some brook trout.

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 12:29 PM

I would expect brookies to be a better choice, since they're smaller and actually native. I don't know if they would be as eager to eat as rainbows though. I'm kind of curious about it as well, as I've thought a couple times about trying some brook trout.


Rainbows are native to North America, just not to the northeast. But yeah, I would think brookies would be a much more manageable size. The Nashville zoo has a brookie and a hellbender on display together in a fairly small tank- I would guess it's 60 gallons or so, if I'm remembering it accurately.

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 06:52 PM

Brook trout can reach 15 pounds!

And brook trout will eat just as greedily as a rainbow trout. So will a brown trout. Trout are pigs in captivity except the big, old adults.

Just remember with a brook trout water temps should not be above 65 degrees whereas with rainbows you can keep them in much warmer water.

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:32 AM

Brook trout can reach 15 pounds!

And brook trout will eat just as greedily as a rainbow trout. So will a brown trout. Trout are pigs in captivity except the big, old adults.

Just remember with a brook trout water temps should not be above 65 degrees whereas with rainbows you can keep them in much warmer water.



WHOA! A 15 lb brookie? THAT is something I'd like to see! :tongue:
I guess maybe possible but it would be = a 600 pound human.
Not to say trout aren't big eaters - they are. The brookies I've kept would keep eating as long as food was there, until they'd swell till I thought they'd burst. A natural reaction from an animal that evolved in an environment where they might not see another meal for days.
They grow very slowly unless you feed really fatty food like the trout chow the hatcheries use [hatchery trout are designed to grow fast and die young].
Also wild brookies from the tiny headwaters are genetically programed to stay small. Breeding adults at less than six inches is common. Anything bigger would be considered a monster.
I never had problems with brookies eating tank mates. Seems too obvious to state but since the "eating the tank mates" issue pops up every time trout are mentioned, I'll repeat; very small trout kept with minnows equal to or greater in size will not attempt to eat their tank mates. They are not obligate piscavores like pickeral and are not prone to grab and kill fish too big to swallow. Obviously they of course WILL gladly eat any fish small enough to be an easy meal, especially if not kept well fed.
Since they grow slower than most minnows, they can coexist for a very long time before predation becomes an issue.
The problem I had was that apparently they have a rabid hate for darters. They chase and nip them relentlously and devout most of their time in trying to drive them out of their territory. I've seen this before in saltwater with small gobies. I theorize it's a response to substrate spawners reacting to substrate living egg stealers.
Aside from that, and IF [BIG IF] you can keep temps below 70F, I've found a small trout in a big stream tank to be a very suitable and enjoyable addition.
Since MA has no length limit for trout, if you use hook and line to collect, it would be legal to take one. The ethics of taking a wild brookie from what tiny fraction of its native range remains is open to debate. Use good judgement.
There are lots of private hatcheries but I doubt they would ever sell singles. Also, a permit may be needed to stock so the hatcheries may not sell to someone without a permit. I'm guessing here though.

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 12:45 AM

I have a small Brookie about 3.5 inches long and he hasn't attempted to eat any of his tankmates but he nips and chases all of them, logperch his size plus one thats close to 5 inches, varigate darters, a big male rainbow darter,a small tesselated, 3 big red spot darters, 3 steelcolor shiners bigger then him are his favorites to nip. He hasn't bothered a recent entry, a large rosy side dace, much. But it was kind of funny watching him very aggressively nip a 3 inch tadpole madtom right on the pectoral spine. He kinda backed off and shook a bit apparently irritated. When he nips he actually grabs a piece of fin or flesh and seems to hold it in his mouth and pull or tug not just a fast bite and release. He eventually went back for more madtom but more carefully. When I first got this Brookie he was about 1.5 inches and after letting him out of the bag I fed some freeze-dried krill to prevent the others from bothering him. Right, he immediately took over and stuffed himself silly on krill, the next day he took pellets and has taken anything offered since!

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 11:39 PM

Brook trout in Northern areas grow much larger than "Appalachian" brook trout. A large brook trout in most UNSTOCKED appalachian streams is, a legal keeper at 7 inches, very large at 10 inches, a bruiser at 12, and a 14 is a wallhanger. I actually caught a 14, two years ago. Made me a very happy man. He went back in the stream, not into wallhangers.

Brooktrout in the north, particularly Labrador, grow very large, with 5 pounders being very common. Very common in well managed fisheries anyway.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 11:20 PM

Where I live in the NC mountains wild brook trout are uncommon but stocked brooks are very common. The state record is almost 8 pounds and came from the Cherokee Indian Reservation.

Trout hatcheries in NC will sell folks rainbow trout. Rarely will you find brooks, browns or others. You gotta go catch those.




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