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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:29 PM

I'm going snorkeling tomorrow. This thread's a little premature, I guess, but I'm excited! I'll post photos, I promise.

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:31 PM

I think this marks the first pre-sampling report on the Forum, no?

ROTFLOL!

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:34 PM

I like to set trends! :laugh:

I'm mainly after turtles, but I should be able to get some sunfish shots, and maybe suckers too.

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Posted 10 May 2008 - 09:29 AM

For psychics only:

Make a list of what you predict Newt will ketch.....

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Posted 10 May 2008 - 12:28 PM

My psychic skills are limited but I predict; mud turtle, musk turtle, map turtle, slider, common snapper, maybe an alligator snapper if he's lucky, a watersnake or two [yellow bellied?], maybe a cottonmouth, probably a few salamanders [twolined, dusky?] white sucker, longear sunnie, a bunch of darters, some minnows and a few mussels.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 01:17 PM

Well? :)

We did some great collecting yesterday. I guess I could set up a thread and get the others to post to it.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 03:38 PM

My psychic skills are limited but I predict; mud turtle, musk turtle, map turtle, slider, common snapper, maybe an alligator snapper if he's lucky, a watersnake or two [yellow bellied?], maybe a cottonmouth, probably a few salamanders [twolined, dusky?] white sucker, longear sunnie, a bunch of darters, some minnows and a few mussels.


Thanks for the optimism! The trip was sort of a bust, though. All the public access spots I knew to Whiteoak have been fenced off and festooned with 'NO TRESPASSING' signs. I drove all over Houston County yesterday morning trying to find a put-in and was completely unsuccessful. I ended up going down to Kentucky Lake and paddling up Big Richland Creek instead. I only got a few hours of snorkeling and paddling in before it got overcast and killed my visibility; I barely made it back to the dock before a real gully-washer rolled in. Also, my AquaPac case has sprung a leak, so no more underwater pictures for me until I get a new rig.

In any case, I did get a few of the things on Mike's list. Pictures coming shortly.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 04:56 PM

All right. While driving around looking for access to Whiteoak I found this raggedy gal (Terrapene carolina carolina) taking a nap on the tarmac:

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She had lots of notches in her shell and was missing an eye.

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I scooted her over into the pasture by the road. A little later I came across this little snapper (Chelydra serpentina):

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I picked him up, eliciting a very pungent response (young snappers' musk smells very similar to wild garlic, oddly enough) and carried him to the nearest body of water, a small creek.

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The pool I released him in was also home to a large midland watersnake (Nerodia sipedon pleuralis), but he took cover beneath a root mass before I could photograph him. There were also a number of fish in the pool, mainly rosyside dace (Clinostomus funduloides).

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At this point I decided to slip my camera into its Aquapac case and try to get some submerged photos. The dace were too quick for me and all ended up looking like this:

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I did spot a little darter while I had the camera underwater.

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At about that time I noticed that the Aquapac was taking on water and so quickly removed the camera from it. There were a few other cyprinids in the pool, though I couldn't get a good look at them; I think they were southern redbellied dace (Phoxinus erythrogaster) and central stonerollers (Campostoma anomalum), but I'm not sure.

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I also saw this lovely blue flower that I did not recognize:

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I didn't want to spend too much time here, as I was just parked on the shoulder, so I went on to Big Richland.

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 05:18 PM

I put my canoe in the water at a private dock/ RV park at Big Richland Creek Bay on Kentucky Lake; my mother has an RV there and I'm on good terms with the owner, so I knew I would have no trouble putting in here. I cruised around the north end of the bay a bit; before long I found a little brushy cove with lots of downed wood in the water, most of it occupied by turtles. I put on my snorkel and mask and stalked the basking turtles for a while, eventually snagging a male Ouachita map turtle who was a little less wary than his conspecifics. I could easily have grabbed some red-eared sliders or painted turtles as well, but I wasn't after them.

Following this I paddled up into the habitat I call a "back bay"; these are creek mouths along reservoirs, which have a mixture of swampy and riverine characteristics. There were plenty of birds here; I saw osprey, great blue herons, Canada geese, wood ducks, purple martins, rough-winged swallows, double-crested cormorants, belted kingfishers, pileated and downy woodpeckers, and prothonotary warblers here. There was a dead drum (I think) in a bush for some reason; probably he was left there by a disappointed bass fisherman.

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The black willows, blackberries, and wild roses were in full bloom.

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I found a couple of good turtle-y log jams;

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one revealed a large cooter,

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while another yielded an adorable little Ouchita map.

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I also spotted this watersnake, which I believe is a midland, but I didn't get a good enough look for definite ID:

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I saw quite a few fish, but none of my photos turned out worth a hoot. There were plenty of sunfish (most unidentifiable, but I know I saw greens, bluegill, and redear) and bass (either largemouth or spotted). I saw several pickerel, both chain and grass, including some foot-long individuals of each. There were blackspotted topminnows and some sort of shiner in the very shallow waters on some of the vegetated 'islands'. I also saw a number of spotted gar, only one of them alone. Mainly I saw pairs of gar swimming side-by-side, but I also saw one trio in which one large dark fish was followed by two smaller, paler fish with their snouts practically in her vent.

The only other fish I saw was a decaying redhorse being fed on by two sliders.

Edited by Newt, 11 May 2008 - 05:20 PM.


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Posted 11 May 2008 - 08:27 PM

Great pictures!

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 11:06 PM

Oh man, now you've got me all jazzed up to get some rosyside film!

Cool stuff!

Todd

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 11:40 AM

Thanks, y'all! Todd, you don't happen to recognize that flower, do you?

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 02:11 PM

Looks like leaves opposite, entire, 5 parts... And that gets me a whole lot of nowhere in Newcombs :)

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 02:28 PM

Here's a slightly better pic. Leaves are alternate, with axillary shoots.

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 02:32 PM

Indiana Wilflowers wins again!

http://plants.usda.g...le?symbol=AMTA2

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 02:36 PM

Thankee kindly!



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