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Posted 27 May 2008 - 02:17 PM

How you guys get to start your own commerical vendors? Just not this moment but some point in the future when I get graduated from the college (Natual Resources). This will be not full time but part time and I stick with fundulus species, North American livebearers, few species that's easy to breed in tubs and no gamefish except sunfish. Just not massive operation. Will not collecting some wild species except brook sticklebacks.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 02:49 PM

At least in my state you need a business license, and an aquaculture permit from the state DNR.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 02:56 PM

Newt is headed in the right direction. We ask that people who want to start a commercial section here contact any member of the "support staff" via email or PM so we can work out the details. We want to make sure that people have the proper permits and so on.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 03:24 PM

FYI Minnesota is pretty militant about their DNR rules. You may have a lot of hoops to jump through. And fees. May want to considering moving to a different state. :biggrin:

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 04:20 PM

I live in Michigan and I plan to have Crappie fry for sale and maybe some pickeral. Will I need permit?

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 04:25 PM

I live in Michigan and I plan to have Crappie fry for sale and maybe some pickeral. Will I need permit?

Gamefish? You bet you will! Asking those of us who live out of state probably won't help very much -- those kind of fish & game laws are always state-specific. Check with your DNR and let us all know the results at http://forum.nanfa.o...p?showforum=160 (and be sure to cite your source). -Jase

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:37 PM

Alright I'll look around for info.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 07:04 PM

Well I don't want do commerical vender but want to start small. And I can't see any regulations about sell non Minnesotan fishes. Since I stick to only small species (nongame) but doesn't want raising any minnows, darters (except swamp) or any fishes, only killifish and livebearers. What's difference between home-raised and commerical-raised ones? You seen mostly people on aquabid sell home-bred ones and few sellers do commerical operation. Does they need to have license for sell "home" bred ones? And since mostly fishes that I want to raising are not from Minnesota anyway and are not "gamefish".

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 07:11 PM

I'd advise you to contact your local officials. Like someone said, the regulations vary from state to state.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 08:26 PM

Yeah, I'm going to look into this!

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 08:36 PM

I think most states end up separating "Aquarium" fish such as you'd buy in a petshop from wild fish such as you'd find in your state's waters. The problem is if there's any overlap. So, as a general rule, just make sure the fish species you're keeping are not native or naturalized to the waters of your state. And keep all of your fish indoors. And don't bring home any fish that were taken illegally from other states. And keep receipts/records of your fish acquisitions. And don't draw attention to yourself :) And you should be pretty safe. If you want to do anything else, consult a lawyer, 'cause any legal advice you get from me is worth what you paid for it. :biggrin:

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 07:30 AM

You have to look into it more, but I was told that if you get a small business liscense you can write off capital expenses such as tanks, food, etc. as business expenses, as well as get a deduction the floor space you use (basically as a percentage of your rent/mortgage and utilities). As a start-up business you are "allowed" an economic loss for three years before the IRS starts getting interested and you risk an audit. Most business are not profitable from the start. I've been looking into this a bit.

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:48 AM

I go with the person that said to contact the staff on NANFA. The more you put here the more you are advertising. I am an electrical contractor here in Chattanooga TN and I can tell you one thing you will need not a business liscense per say but it is a Business Tax Number. Maybe that is what they are calling a Business Liscense. I do work in the City then in the county of where I live. Then the Little city that I live in. Chattanooga and Hamilton county both want their share of the $$$$
and also my little city. So in order to do business I have to have four types of electrical liscenses, and two Business Tax Liscenses. I am saying all of this just to show you that yes everyone wants a piece of your pie when it comes to your hard earned money. And you will more than likely need a aquaculture liscense or permit and I can only guess other liscenses to sell the fish you raise.

PS: Contact the Staff and especially maybe some of them that are in the Business already. I suggest Brian Zimermon "smbass"




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