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Kansas red finned shiner

Started by Guest_iturnrocks_* , Jun 04 2008 04:47 PM

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#1 Guest_iturnrocks_*

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 04:47 PM

I dont know what to make of this. I am stuck between common shiner, redfin shiner, and cardinal shiner. Obviously a breeding male, but I do have some females if that would help. Any ideas? Caught in Chase County, Kansas- I believe this is the Neosho River drainage.

These are the best photos I have so far. I will try to get some better ones.

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#2 Guest_fundulus_*

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 05:15 PM

I'm inclined to say redfin shiner, just from the intensity of the color on the fins. Does it have a small dark spot at the base of the dorsal fin? That would be the clincher for just about any Lythrurus species, but it's not visible in the two (decent) photos. And I'd say it's certainly not a common shiner, the fins are just too red.

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 05:30 PM

Does it have a small dark spot at the base of the dorsal fin?

No, there is no spot on the dorsal fin. Im really leaning to cardinal shiner now. In the photo I count only 9 rays in the anal fin. I just took about 20 more pics, but none come out good. I will get a good pic eventually. Perhaps if I separate these 2 males.

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#4 Guest_keepnatives_*

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 07:10 PM

Looks like a cardinal shiner "starting" to color up. If so wait till its in full color they are amazing. Definately not a common shiner or redfin. Could it be a Topeka shiner? I've never seen one of those.

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#5 Guest_smbass_*

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 09:38 PM

I'd say it's a Luxilus sp. maybe a cardinal shiner but I am not real familiar with some of the smaller western Luxilus species so don't quote me on which one.