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Shiner from my pond

Started by Guest_uniseine_* , Jun 22 2008 12:24 PM

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#1 Guest_uniseine_*

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 12:24 PM

This picture was taken in sunlight and not altered, other than being cropped.

Pteronotropis welaka, Bluenose Shiner

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Edited by uniseine, 22 June 2008 - 12:29 PM.

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#2 Guest_fundulus_*

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 12:42 PM

What can I say, that's a serious looking fish.

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#3 Guest_octavio_*

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 01:29 PM

That's a beautiful fish Philip! Are they breeding for you and what else is in the pond?

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#4 Guest_schambers_*

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 08:17 PM

Wow!

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#5 Guest_AndrewAcropora_*

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 11:00 PM

Excellent photo!
It's now my desktop image.

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#6 Guest_nativeplanter_*

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 11:36 AM

Nice fish, Phil! I wish I had your breeding skills!

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#7 Guest_uniseine_*

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 02:56 PM

Nice fish, Phil! I wish I had your breeding skills!

This fish is wild caught.

I am running out of ideas on coaxing these fish to spawn. I'll write a long post after a few more attempts to get these fish to spawn in a tank.

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#8 Guest_natureman187_*

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 06:12 PM

Absolutely stunning.

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#9 Guest_ashtonmj_*

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 07:27 PM

Phil hopefully you have some luck and can provide some valuable and much needed information about this fish's ecology.

I don't know how many fish you have you are trying to spawn right now or if this is too complex but I have a suggestions. A lot of outdoor water partioned with various sunfish species? How far you exclude the sunfish from the shiners would be up to you, completely, partially, only among treatment groups, etc.. Hormones would be present in the water from all sunfish species to some extent but visual contact and nest building would only be available from a specific species.

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#10 Guest_uniseine_*

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:32 PM

Phil hopefully you have some luck and can provide some valuable and much needed information about this fish's ecology.

I don't know how many fish you have you are trying to spawn right now or if this is too complex but I have a suggestions. A lot of outdoor water partioned with various sunfish species? How far you exclude the sunfish from the shiners would be up to you, completely, partially, only among treatment groups, etc.. Hormones would be present in the water from all sunfish species to some extent but visual contact and nest building would only be available from a specific species.

The peak sunfish spawning period ended 2 weeks ago. My Dollar Sunfish have already spawned twice. I am not sure if it would be better to try and add more sunfish, who might not be in the mood to breed anymore, stick with the Dollar Sunfish, or try something else. My Welaka grew, a bit slowly, but are a good size now. Lost 2 males, still have 8 full finned terminal males. I only have 6 females and 2 transitional males?

Edited by uniseine, 23 June 2008 - 09:55 PM.

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#11 Guest_ashtonmj_*

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 06:44 AM

Get sunfish from further north?

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#12 Guest_Doug_Dame_*

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:41 AM

I am running out of ideas on coaxing these fish to spawn. I'll write a long post after a few more attempts to get these fish to spawn in a tank.

WOW.

I seem to recall from a breeding welaka article from the distant past that what you need for success isn't sunfish per se, it's sunfish milt. Not something you can likely rush down to your local oriental supermarket and pick up, but maybe that gives you more options and/or extends the season.

d.d.