Some of my natives..

Well I'm new to the forum, just stumbled upon it. Anyway, I figured for my first post I would share some of my natives. They currently reside in a 50 breeder (48x18x13) but I plan on housing them in my 120 (48x24x24) as soon as I finish the wet / dry filter. Ultimately, I plan on getting it down to a few of the Green Sunfish, a few of the Rock Bass and maybe a bullhead and pickerel or two. I still need to figure out what substrate I want to use and I need to clean up the driftwood that I have collected. But enough talk.. here are the pics:

Is that fallfish or some kind of chub? Otherwise it look cool and almost looks like a sucker with huge mouth.

Welcome Mudfrog!

Love the name!

Nice photos! How big are those fish? The big guy looks way too big for a 50 gallon, he can barely turn around!

How you"clean up" driftwood?

I have it in my head that driftwood is from the beach and you don't use it unless for a brackish or marine tank because of the salt content. Of course, I suppose driftwood could be collected from a river or stream. We have an abundance of aged wood all the time. Some of it really has to soak a long time before it sinks. What kind of wood is it, was it in a tank prior to this one?

What kind of rock it that white rock?

What kind of plants are you going to put in?

Is that fallfish or some kind of chub? Otherwise it look cool and almost looks like a sucker with huge mouth.

Yea, it's just a creek chub / fallfish (Semotilus corporalis), we call them horny heads around here.

Edited by Mudfrog, 07 July 2008 - 03:57 PM.

Welcome Mudfrog!

Love the name!

Nice photos! How big are those fish? The big guy looks way too big for a 50 gallon, he can barely turn around!

How you"clean up" driftwood?

I have it in my head that driftwood is from the beach and you don't use it unless for a brackish or marine tank because of the salt content. Of course, I suppose driftwood could be collected from a river or stream. We have an abundance of aged wood all the time. Some of it really has to soak a long time before it sinks. What kind of wood is it, was it in a tank prior to this one?

What kind of rock it that white rock?

What kind of plants are you going to put in?

The Green Sunfish is about 5.5 - 6". The Chub is 12", the tank is 18" wide btw so he can still turn around, but like I said they will be in a 48x24x24 soon.

The driftwood is from a creek. It has mud and algae all over it. To prepare it I'm going to grind off a thin layer with a wire wheel then boil it in hot water to kill any parasites.

As for the white rocks, it's actually just where the black gravel has lost it's coloration. I bought the gravel at a LFS but I had no idea the black coloration would eventually wear off

Plants wise, I'm not really sure, I probably won't add a whole lot as the tank is not going to have a ton of light, but I haven't decided on that yet.

Creek chub (Semotilus atromaculatus) is different species from fallfish, just let you know.

What you feeding to the fallfish? And did you caught it on line & hook?

I love all the sunfish/rockbass. Are the smaller sunfish anything in particular ( as in special species or just smaller green sunfish??.) I Love the idea of greensunfish/rockbass tank, but the size of them have pointed me in a FAR different direction. I am happy when people post pictures of both fish because it always gives me hope for the future!

Thanks for sharing your fish with us!!

Creek chub (Semotilus atromaculatus) is different species from fallfish, just let you know.

What you feeding to the fallfish? And did you caught it on line & hook?

I saw.. I'm not 100% sure but according to pics it looks more like a fallfish. And yes, caught it on chicken liver, haven't had it long but I'm feeding all of these guys worms and shrimp.

Edited by Mudfrog, 07 July 2008 - 05:55 PM.

I love all the sunfish/rockbass. Are the smaller sunfish anything in particular ( as in special species or just smaller green sunfish??.) I Love the idea of greensunfish/rockbass tank, but the size of them have pointed me in a FAR different direction. I am happy when people post pictures of both fish because it always gives me hope for the future!

Thanks for sharing your fish with us!!

I haven't ID'd the smaller one's yet, I know there are a couple Green Sunfish and Rock Bass that are smaller, as for the others I'm not sure yet.

The Green Sunfish is about 5.5 - 6". The Chub is 12", the tank is 18" wide btw so he can still turn around, but like I said they will be in a 48x24x24 soon.

The driftwood is from a creek. It has mud and algae all over it. To prepare it I'm going to grind off a thin layer with a wire wheel then boil it in hot water to kill any parasites.

As for the white rocks, it's actually just where the black gravel has lost it's coloration. I bought the gravel at a LFS but I had no idea the black coloration would eventually wear off

Plants wise, I'm not really sure, I probably won't add a whole lot as the tank is not going to have a ton of light, but I haven't decided on that yet.

How long do you boil it for? I don't have a pot big enough to boil most of the wood around here. Do you think poring boiling water into a trash can and letting it soak until the water cooled would work the same?

The white rock I meant is in pictures 4, 5 and 7, not the gravel. Yeah, I'm not fond of aquarium gravel in aquariums. I use it for gravel in planters however. People often give it away for free and it works just as well as pea gravel.

There are plenty of low light plants. There are plenty of cold water plants. I haven't found any plants that are both cold water and low level and readily available here in Oregon. I'm still searching though.

Best of Luck!

I do not know of any native low-light plants other than Riccia. But I'm not familiar with plants that only occur on the west coast.

I do not know of any native low-light plants other than Riccia. But I'm not familiar with plants that only occur on the west coast.

Where can I find Riccia, I'm in Virginia as well.

How long do you boil it for? I don't have a pot big enough to boil most of the wood around here. Do you think poring boiling water into a trash can and letting it soak until the water cooled would work the same?

The white rock I meant is in pictures 4, 5 and 7, not the gravel. Yeah, I'm not fond of aquarium gravel in aquariums. I use it for gravel in planters however. People often give it away for free and it works just as well as pea gravel.

There are plenty of low light plants. There are plenty of cold water plants. I haven't found any plants that are both cold water and low level and readily available here in Oregon. I'm still searching though.

Best of Luck!

Yes, I plan on using a rubbermaid container and pouring boiling water over the driftwood. I'll repeat once or twice and then allow it to soak completely to release any tannins.

Those rocks were actually in an old flowerbed that I had, they came with the house

Where can I find Riccia, I'm in Virginia as well.

Pond-type springs (limnocrenes) are a good place to find Riccia; you can also find it in lower densities in swamps, backwaters, and stream eddies. Often it will be present beneath a layer of duckweed or other faster-growing floater. It's also available from online aquarium plant retailers.

Some plant-like algaes (Chara, Nitella) also do well in low light and can often be found in similar habitats as Riccia. They look like a coarse, knobby version of hornwort.

Edited by Newt, 08 July 2008 - 02:40 PM.

Nice.

Make sure there is plenty of hiding places/cover in your 120 for the rock bass and green sunfish.