2008 Random Illinois Fishes photos
#1 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 08:38 AM
Notropis chalybaeus Ironcolor Shiner
Pomoxis nigromaculatus Black Crappie
Percina phoxocephala Slenderhead Darter
Percina caprodes Logperch
Dorosoma cepedianum Gizzard Shad
I'll add more photos as the season continues here...Illinois Fishes 2008
#2 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 08:39 AM
Aplodinotus grunniens Freshwater Drum
Cyprinella spiloptera Spotfin Shiner
Nocomis biguttatus Hornyhead Chub
Lythrurus umbratilis Redfin Shiner
Luxilus chrysocephalus Striped Shiner
#3 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 10:41 AM
#4 Guest_farmertodd_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 11:09 AM
Where did you get the striped shiner? It's pretty intergrade-ish. Those dorsal scales drop farily dramatically in size and there's no coloration on the chin. Just curuious.
Todd
#5 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 11:49 AM
Uland, as always, your pictures are fabulous!
Where did you get the striped shiner? It's pretty intergrade-ish. Those dorsal scales drop farily dramatically in size and there's no coloration on the chin. Just curuious.
Todd
Todd,
I would really like to understand (or just talk to someone about) what's going on with the striped/common shiners here. That photo was taken in a trib of the Kankakee in Kankakee county. L. cournutus are not found in the Kankakee or it's tribs. You might know that L. cornutus and L. chrysocephalus are found side by side in the tribs of the Fox River and tribs of the Illinois River West of the Fox. In one of those streams I took the photo below of what was obvious at the time L. cornutus. In those streams, the lines on their backs were plain as day to my eyes. I have very limited experience with L. cornutus though. In my experience, the local L. chrysocephalus are very plain colored when in breeding condition. Robust males will get a slight touch of pink and nothing more.
#6 Guest_farmertodd_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:07 PM
Smith notes the Kank as a zone of intergradation and has marked accounts of cornutus in there. I can't stand his description tho. I look to Pflieger for that in FofMO.
That time is coming up. ESA is the week of the 4th in Milwaukee and Jon and plan to hit the Kank and Tippie on the way home, probably the 8-10th. I was getting ready to send you a PM about it man! Would love to have others go along, but it's going to be unorganized until the 29th when Jon and I are finally back in the same place. So pencil in those dates, and if anything comes up, please, write in right over it.
I'll drop you a line this evening Uland.
Todd
#7 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:46 PM
I sampled mussels in the area yesterday and it seems we're near the 20 species mark at one site. You might wanna check it out when you're out this way.
#8 Guest_farmertodd_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 03:05 PM
What you might want to do is get up into the Fox and get really strong common shiner and compare those against striped shiner from the Vermillion. Around Chicago has been too disturbed to make good comparisons, and I'd be apprehensive about defining the rules in your mind by those specimens.
I'd be glad to scan the distribution maps for you if you'd like. I think I saw them online at one time too.
Also, I hope I can talk Jon into some fun sampling instead of "work". I'd really like to do some musselin'. These rains have seriously hampered our outdoor in-stream activities so far this year.
Todd
Edited by farmertodd, 14 July 2008 - 03:06 PM.
#9 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 03:29 PM
#10 Guest_NVCichlids_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 05:29 PM
Uland,
Smith notes the Kank as a zone of intergradation and has marked accounts of cornutus in there. I can't stand his description tho. I look to Pflieger for that in FofMO.
That time is coming up. ESA is the week of the 4th in Milwaukee and Jon and plan to hit the Kank and Tippie on the way home, probably the 8-10th. I was getting ready to send you a PM about it man! Would love to have others go along, but it's going to be unorganized until the 29th when Jon and I are finally back in the same place. So pencil in those dates, and if anything comes up, please, write in right over it.
I'll drop you a line this evening Uland.
Todd
Sorry to sound "stupid" but what is the week of the 4th in Milwaukee? I might be able to join you guys if I am educated on what is going on and if my company is wanted lol.( waukesha being a sub. of milwaukee and all).
#11 Guest_farmertodd_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 05:51 PM
Todd
#12 Guest_Newt_*
Posted 14 July 2008 - 06:28 PM
#13 Guest_mikez_*
Posted 15 July 2008 - 11:16 AM
Are most of these shot in natural light?. There's a few in this lot [the shad especially] that the irridecent sheen is captured perfectly. I'm guessing you used sunlight to get that effect?
#14 Guest_jimjim_*
Posted 15 July 2008 - 01:50 PM
#15 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 15 July 2008 - 01:52 PM
The Shad and the Drum were photographed pretty close to sundown and that was just luck on my part. To be honest, I attribute most of my fish photos to luck and volume
#16 Guest_mikez_*
Posted 15 July 2008 - 02:32 PM
Hey Mike, Essentially all of my photos are very near the water where they were captured and therefore all sunlight. I do take photos of captive fish but I take those photos on the front lawn. I'm not sure what the neighbors say about me when my back is turned
The Shad and the Drum were photographed pretty close to sundown and that was just luck on my part. To be honest, I attribute most of my fish photos to luck and volume
I've been very frustrated trying to shoot a fired up banded sunfish male for over a week now. No lighting or flash combo I use gives me a fraction of the potential color the fish shows.
Next week while my boss is on vacation I'm gonna set up a ten gallon tank in the window in my lab. It gets about an hour or so of the last light of the day. Put my divider in and put the female on one side, male on the other. That sun outghta beam right off his sides.
If that don't work, I'll be in the front yard as well. My neighbors won't find it strange, they've seen me out there photographing big snakes plenty of times. Fish would seem normal.
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