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Growing Sagittaria brevirostra from seed


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Posted 22 October 2008 - 12:04 PM

Has anyone tried this? I have found information on raising S. cuneata and S. latifolia from seed. Apparently S. cuneata requires a lengthy cool-warm-cool cycle to initiate germination, while S. latifolia requires only a single cool cycle of about 8 weeks. Any idea which, if either, pattern is followed by S. brevirostra?

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 12:48 PM

Has anyone tried this? I have found information on raising S. cuneata and S. latifolia from seed. Apparently S. cuneata requires a lengthy cool-warm-cool cycle to initiate germination, while S. latifolia requires only a single cool cycle of about 8 weeks. Any idea which, if either, pattern is followed by S. brevirostra?


I have not germinated this one, but if I could find no other information, I would assume it needs an 8 to 10 week cool period. I would sprinkle the seeds in a wide, shallow pot, wrap in a plastic bag, and put in the back of the fridge. Just press the seeds into the soil or barely cover. I would use a sterile seed starting mix, which will reduce the chances of it going moldy and if nothing else will ease the spouse. (But I'll be honest, I've never found the need for a sterile medium). If you forget about it and take it out after, say, 14 weeks, it shouldn't cause a problem. Then just move it somewhere bright and warm and keep the surface moist. You can keep the very surface moist using a spray bottle if a watering can is too much.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 01:09 PM

Thanks, Laura! I'll let you know how it turns out.

If I'm successful I should have far more plants than I need, and I'll be happy to send some to whoever wants them.

The adult plant:

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It's smaller than S. latifolia, generally 12-24" high with inflorescence reaching up to 30".

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 01:33 PM

I'm trying Alisma subcordata too, since it also requires a cold stratification period. I'm heading down into the coastal plain next week and will try to collect seed from Sagittaria latifolia and perhaps a few other species. I tried transplanting S. latifolia in the spring, which ended in failure, so hopefully I'll have more success with seed.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:51 PM

Why do you think it ended in failure? I'm surprised. Under what conditions did you put them?

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 04:33 PM

I collected two large S. latifolia in February. I was unable to pull out the entire rhizome as it was several feet long and so just broke off the last 24" or so.

I placed the plants in my scud/daphnia tank (a concrete tank in an unheated greenhouse), with the rhizome weighted to keep it in the thick mulm at the bottom of the tank. I cut away the raggedy larger leaves, and initially saw some new growth. There were a number of grubs in the rhizome; I picked out all the ones I could see. But the rhizome eventually grew soggy and rotted, while the new foliage drooped into the water and was eaten by the scuds.

It is possible the water chemistry shock was too much (I moved them from a neutral/slightly acid blackwater ditch to my local hard and basic water), but I suspect the rhizome breakage and transplant stress allowed some sort of infection to take hold. I have had more luck with smaller sags from nearby wetlands, probably because I could uproot the entire plant, quickly transport it to its new home, and put it back in water with similar chemistry.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 07:49 PM

Yes, larger specimens can definitely be more difficult, especially if you lost a lot of the roots. But I wouldn't discount the grubs. Not sure which kind they were, but grubs can definitely kill rhizomatous species. This may have espeically been the case for you since the plant would be relying on stored starches in the rhizome to create the new growth since the old growth was removed. But, removing a lot of the old growth is definitely appropriate if a lot of the root mass is lost. In addition to eating the starches, the grubs interfere with the vascular system.




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