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Posted 22 October 2008 - 01:43 PM

Another one of my amazing observations as i travel through this thing called native fish collecting. I, since realizing i could get some of my own fish, have found it weird that within a 10 mile radius of a given area here different little creeks and streams have different fish, You might say Duhhh, but to me this is strange and says somthing for fish preference. In one place i find only long ear, and greens. in another only bluegill, and in one place longear/green and 1 stray punkinseed. Of course in one place quite a few creek chubs, which are nowhere else. It might be dumb but im thinkin...hmmm these creeks should all have about the same stuff , what i was really after was punkin seeds but only got 1 lonely but beautiful specimen.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 01:55 PM

You've entered the world of ecology as a science -- what factors affect the distribution and abundance of different species? There are active preferences and dislikes that different species have, and also historical accident can shape it. But really, no one knows exactly what to expect at a given stream which maybe makes it interesting.

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Posted 22 October 2008 - 05:52 PM

You've entered the world of ecology as a science -- what factors affect the distribution and abundance of different species? There are active preferences and dislikes that different species have, and also historical accident can shape it. But really, no one knows exactly what to expect at a given stream which maybe makes it interesting.

It definitely makes it interesting, and also saves me time and gas. i have all the greens, longear, and for now punkin seeds i need, but i remember what is where, today i fished a private large pond that floods out of a river almost yearly, here i use small hooks with no barbs (Cant seine or dip) the owner who allowed me to fish anytime within his rules tells me there is now gar in here and if i catch one please destroy it. I said yeah ok (dont intend to !!) but this long story short, i see what you mean about historical happenings (flooded pond) however i caught a nice punkinseed and a really sweeet redear. What a learning experience this is. I fished for years and all sunfish used to be bluegill (i thought).

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 06:47 AM

It definitely makes it interesting, and also saves me time and gas. i have all the greens, longear, and for now punkin seeds i need, but i remember what is where, today i fished a private large pond that floods out of a river almost yearly, here i use small hooks with no barbs (Cant seine or dip) the owner who allowed me to fish anytime within his rules tells me there is now gar in here and if i catch one please destroy it. I said yeah ok (dont intend to !!) but this long story short, i see what you mean about historical happenings (flooded pond) however i caught a nice punkinseed and a really sweeet redear. What a learning experience this is. I fished for years and all sunfish used to be bluegill (i thought).


growing up i kinda stayed in one place fishing, all i caught were what i assume are "redbreasted sunfish" and the ocational small mouth bass. As i met more and freshwater fishing buddies i found myself moving up and down the river into different counties and find rock bass and other types of sunfish i dont dare lable without a second opionion. THere are several dams bult on the patapsco and wader if its man that has seperated these species or if it is just a natural occurance One day i found myself at the liberty resevior (baltimore county) and the only sunfish iv ever seen in that water are greens, then move a mile down the road to a park called "Piney Run" and the species are endless.

Its almost makes me as currious to why the DC area has black squirles and baltimore has light colored brown squirles.

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 07:41 AM

growing up i kinda stayed in one place fishing, all i caught were what i assume are "redbreasted sunfish" and the ocational small mouth bass. As i met more and freshwater fishing buddies i found myself moving up and down the river into different counties and find rock bass and other types of sunfish i dont dare lable without a second opionion. THere are several dams bult on the patapsco and wader if its man that has seperated these species or if it is just a natural occurance One day i found myself at the liberty resevior (baltimore county) and the only sunfish iv ever seen in that water are greens, then move a mile down the road to a park called "Piney Run" and the species are endless.

Its almost makes me as currious to why the DC area has black squirles and baltimore has light colored brown squirles.


WOW !!! i opened a can of worms here. :biggrin: This is exactly why i love this forum, always interaction and new ideas coming out. Maybe we could get drew to do a squirrel study......he could start with me :tongue:

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Posted 24 October 2008 - 08:33 AM

Its almost makes me as currious to why the DC area has black squirles and baltimore has light colored brown squirles.



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Posted 24 October 2008 - 09:55 AM

growing up i kinda stayed in one place fishing, all i caught were what i assume are "redbreasted sunfish" and the ocational small mouth bass. As i met more and freshwater fishing buddies i found myself moving up and down the river into different counties and find rock bass and other types of sunfish i dont dare lable without a second opionion. THere are several dams bult on the patapsco and wader if its man that has seperated these species or if it is just a natural occurance One day i found myself at the liberty resevior (baltimore county) and the only sunfish iv ever seen in that water are greens, then move a mile down the road to a park called "Piney Run" and the species are endless.

Its almost makes me as currious to why the DC area has black squirles and baltimore has light colored brown squirles.


The green sunfish were stocked and are not native to Maryland. In fact, most of the species in Liberty Reservior are not native to the state or to that part of the state. When you went down to Piney Run, you went to a less anthropologically (human) disturbed/altered area.

As far as the ecology of DC. It's pretty much a hotspot of non-natives across all faunas. Alot of early naturalists in DC pretty much did what they pleased include of alot of "I wonder if this will live here". Case in point the article. I have several turn of the 20th century U.S. Fish Bureau publications that in a nutshell say we put this fish in the Potomac to see ______________. The C&O Canal is also a highway for native and non-natives.

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 04:00 PM

yea definately think its all cool, one part of this river i netted nothing but bluegill and shiners, go prob about 5 miles upstream, hundreds off shadow bass, rainbow darters, banded darters, pirate perch, madtoms just an abundance of things ...its absolutely amazing




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