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Solo Mississippi Collections 11-22-06 and 11-24-06


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Posted 27 November 2006 - 04:31 PM

11-22-06 Clear Creek in Warren County
Beautiful place except for the deer carcasses thrown from the bridge.

Luxilus chrysocephalus Striped shiner
Campostoma anomalum Central stoneroller
Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill
Lepomis miniatus Redspotted sunfish
Lepomis megalotis Longear sunfish
Etheostoma caeruleum Rainbow darter (Made me very happy since the shadow bass ate my others)
Etheostoma swaini Gulf darter
Percina nigrofasciata Blackbanded darter
Percina sciera Dusky darter


11-24-06

Site 1
Bayou Pierre and oxbow lakes @ hwy 28
Nice, but very muddy banks

Gambusia affinis Western mosquitofish
Fundulus olivaceous Blackspotted topminnow
Fundulus notatus Blackstripe topminnow
Aphredoderus sayanus Pirate perch
Lepomis gulosus Warmouth
Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill
Lepomis miniatus Redspotted sunfish
Lepomis megalotis Longear sunfish
Elassoma zonatum Banded pygmy sunfish (Tons and huge ones)

Site 2
Thompson Creek @ hwy 28
Nice little headwater stream

Luxilus chrysocephalus Striped shiner
Notropis longirostris Longnose shiner
Pimephales notatus Bluntnose minnow
Semolitus atromaculatus Creek chub
Noturus leptacanthus Speckled madtom
Noturus miurus Brindled Madtom
Gambusia affinis Western mosquitofish
Fundulus olivaceous Blackspotted topminnow
Fundulus notatus Blackstripe topminnow
Lepomis gulosus Warmouth
Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill
Lepomis miniatus Redspotted sunfish
Lepomis megalotis Longear sunfish
Lepomis cyanellus Green sunfish
Etheostoma sp. Pending ID

Site 3
Heavily vegetated creek south of Brookhaven @ hwy 51

Erimyzon oblongus Creek chubsuker
Ameiurus natalis Yellow bullhead
Esox americanus vermiculatus Grass pickerel
Gambusia affinis Western mosquitofish
Fundulus olivaceous Blackspotted topminnow
Aphredoderus sayanus Pirate perch (One was huge)
Lepomis gulosus Warmouth
Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill
Lepomis miniatus Redspotted sunfish
Lepomis megalotis Longear sunfish ( very small, hard to positively ID)
Elassoma zonatum Banded pygmy sunfish

Site 4
Unnamed creek Amite County
Small low flow backwater creek

Gambusia affinis Western mosquitofish
Fundulus olivaceous Blackspotted topminnow
Aphredoderus sayanus Pirate perch
Lepomis gulosus Warmouth
Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill
Lepomis miniatus Redspotted sunfish

Site 5
Small unnamed tributary to the Tangipahoa River on the Amite/Pike County line
This creek was 18-24 inchers wide on average

Luxilus chrysocephalus Striped shiner
Lythrurus roseipinnis Cherryfin shiner
Noturus leptacanthus Speckled madtom
Gambusia affinis Western mosquitofish
Fundulus olivaceous Blackspotted topminnow
Aphredoderus sayanus Pirate perch
Ambloplites ariommus Shadow bass
Lepomis gulosus Warmouth
Lepomis macrochirus Bluegill
Lepomis miniatus Redspotted sunfish
Etheostoma swaini Gulf darter (Tons and the biggest I have ever seen)
Etheostoma stigmaeum Speckled darter
Etheostoma sp. Pending ID
Percina nigrofasciata Blackbanded darter

Site 6
Tangipahoa River
Very nice looking site, tons of vegetation ( looks kinda like eel grass, grows in shallow high flow areas)
Didn't get to stay long sine it was getting dark
Definatily have to check this place out again

Noturus leptacanthus Speckled madtom
Ambloplites ariommus Shadow bass
Lepomis miniatus Redspotted sunfish
Etheostoma swaini Gulf darter
Etheostoma stigmaeum Speckled darter
Etheostoma sp. Pending ID
Percina nigrofasciata Blackbanded darter ( biggest I have seen)

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 04:42 PM

You rock!

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 04:43 PM

hehe Thanks, I can't drive past a bridge without checking it out.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 05:46 PM

Sweet, I kept data from the summer, this has motivated me to post results from some of those trips.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 05:52 PM

Post it up.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 06:27 PM

You found a brindled madtom - very nice. Not terribly common hereabouts.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 08:57 PM

hehe Thanks, I can't drive past a bridge without checking it out.


Are there any laws regarding collecting near bridges? For example, there are a few creeks that run underneath the roads here but the land on both sides is owned but someone.

Great collecting results. You collected more fish species in one day that i think I have collected in a lifetime. I don't suppose you have any pictures of your results?

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 09:23 PM

hehe Thanks, I can't drive past a bridge without checking it out.


Are there any laws regarding collecting near bridges? For example, there are a few creeks that run underneath the roads here but the land on both sides is owned but someone.

Great collecting results. You collected more fish species in one day that i think I have collected in a lifetime. I don't suppose you have any pictures of your results?


There is a right of way that extends some distance on either side of the road that is not private property. You can collect within this right of way. In SC, if the stream is navigable, you can continue on outside of the right of way since the stream is then not considered private property.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 09:32 PM

hehe Thanks, I can't drive past a bridge without checking it out.

I don't suppose you have any pictures of your results?


I always bring my camera, but I have a hard time putting the net down while I'm on the water. I will try and take some in tank pics when everything settles down. I need to make a good photo tank. I caught some of the biggest and most colorful gulf darters I have ever seen. As far as collecting from bridges goes, I have never had a problem. This time of year (deer season) I try not to wander too far from the road into someones hunting land.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 11:47 PM

There is a right of way that extends some distance on either side of the road that is not private property. You can collect within this right of way. In SC, if the stream is navigable, you can continue on outside of the right of way since the stream is then not considered private property.


This is true in Pennsylvania, and probably most eastern states, as well. Water rights are different out west, but since you are in New York, Sandtiger... The definition of navigable is another thing. In Pennsylvania, that is based on history, not just whether you can use a boat there. If, for instance, 100 years ago, logs were floated down a stream to a sawmill, then that stream is considered to be navigable. There is a large, rare volume that lists what is "Waters of the Commonwealth", which I would dearly love to have a copy of. You should check with your state agency to see what is defined as navigable waters in New York. Maybe some of the other New Yorkers here can help you with that.

How wide a road right-of-way is will vary. But you can expect that it is at least as wide as the shoulders of the road, if not wider.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:43 PM

I just found 2 Semolitus hanging out in the back of my car, they had been there since Friday. I knew the smell was worse than usual.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 07:09 PM

There is a right of way that extends some distance on either side of the road that is not private property. You can collect within this right of way. In SC, if the stream is navigable, you can continue on outside of the right of way since the stream is then not considered private property.


Dustin,
What is the SC definition of "navigable"? Here in GA, the public access rule is the same, but most rivers are not considered navigable. It's a topic of some debate, but the legal definition is that "navigable" has to do with being able to float a barge.

For some reason I think NC is similar to GA. Anyone know?

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 07:10 PM

I just found 2 Semolitus hanging out in the back of my car, they had been there since Friday. I knew the smell was worse than usual.


Thanks for the info.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 09:31 PM

I am unsure if in Kentucky property owners "own" that part of the creek or stream. However, the government owns 5 foot of ground on each side of the road. That 5 foot is supposedly the spot you can fish in, as it's public property. I am assuming it's the same in other states.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 09:57 PM

Just remember when you are deep in the country and dealing with drunk rednecks government easements may not matter. Its a good thing I am a drunk redneck. hehehe

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 10:21 PM

Just remember when you are deep in the country and dealing with drunk rednecks government easements may not matter. Its a good thing I am a drunk redneck. hehehe


I also find that being a drunk redneck is helpful, just remember, you are collecting bait! If you say you have some Etheostoma in your bucket, you will blow your cover. But that can easily be remedied when you bust out the bottle of ole' Dan Tucker.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 11:21 PM

Just remember when you are deep in the country and dealing with drunk rednecks government easements may not matter. Its a good thing I am a drunk redneck. hehehe


Sometimes the Catfish Alliance makes it too easy! In fact, I think I'll pass on this one - it's so easy it's not even fun!

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 10:38 PM

http://www.adventure...-law-public.htm

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 11:32 PM

http://www.adventure...-law-public.htm


Nice post. thanks for the info.



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