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Upper Mad River 28-Mar-09

Started by Guest_smbass_* , Mar 29 2009 12:25 AM

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#1 Guest_smbass_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 12:25 AM

Got out today with Skipjack and Truf and we did quite well. We went to two different locations in the upper Mad River drainage and also visited two small Kettle Lakes in the area.

In the Mad we got...

Tonguetied Minnow Exoglosum laurae

Redside Dace Clinostomus elongatus

Western Blacknose Dace Rhinichthys obtusus

Creek Chub Semotilus atromaculatus

Matt holding a rather large one

Central Stoneroller Campostoma anomalum

Silver Shiner Notropis photogenis

White Sucker Catomstomus comersonii

Brown Trout Salmo trutta

Rainbow Darter Etheostoma caeruleum

Mottled Sculpin Cottus bairdi

Brook Stickleback Culaea inconstans

Bluegill Lepomis macrochirus

In the first Kettle Lake we found...

Iowa Darters Etheostoma exile
Tadpole Madtom Noturus gyrinus
Green Sunfish Lepomis cyanellus
Bluegill Lepomis macrochirus
and Truff noticed some common carp but none were captured. I suspect the presents of carp may have been responsible for the relatively low numbers of Iowa Darters.

Second Kettle Lake was much smaller...

Iowa Darters Etheostoma exile
Least Darter Etheostoma microperca
Bluegill Lepomis macrochirus
Largemouth Bass Micropterus salmoides

Not a lot of diversity but finding a spot where catching a hundred of both least and Iowa darters would not be difficult, is a very rare find in Ohio.

I'll likely add some more later but I got too tired to go through them all tonight.

If I missed anything guys add them in...

Uland, I think I'm going to stick with gray for a background as well. I took some with white and black of several of the fish above but I only kept ones with the gray background, they just look more natural to me.

#2 Guest_BTDarters_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 05:25 AM

Brian,

That is really neat! I've never seen a Tonguetied Minnow. Thanks for sharing!

Brian

#3 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 07:56 AM

Brian,

That is really neat! I've never seen a Tonguetied Minnow. Thanks for sharing!

Brian

Sounds like you all had a good time.glad the rain held off for you.
sorry i was unable to go.

#4 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 08:12 AM

The fish in general seem to be thicker and more robust
then fish from LMR in our area.
you can even see that there check meat is thicker.

#5 Guest_Uland_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 08:25 AM

Looks like the group had a blast and you took some great pictures Brian. For some reason I thought you fellas were too far south to sample any natural lakes. Very neat you hit them too.

#6 Guest_Jim_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 08:33 AM

Thanks so much for posting those pics, there are so many fish ill never actually get to see up close. I think that Sculpin is so interesting looking. Little bulldog, I can almost picture him bounceing around barking at all the other fish :grin:

#7 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 09:47 AM

Come on Brian, you know that is a state record creek chub.

Tony, it may be because of the springfed nature of the mad. It has relatively stable conditions, and may provide a longer growing season in general, and cooler temps in mid summer also keep the fish more active.

Uland, interestingly there is a pothole lake as far south as the Dayton vicinity.

Jim, sculpins are one of the most common fish in the Mad river. The one Brian photographed was huge, close to 6 inches long.

#8 Guest_smbass_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 11:35 AM

I don't know about that being the record chub, check out this thing I caught last summer in a trib to the clearfork of the Mohican.

#9 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 11:43 AM

Thasts a full 2oz. bigger. nice chub!

#10 Guest_Skipjack_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 11:44 AM

Well Brian I don't see a record for creek chub. It would go well with your longear. http://www.ohiodnr.c...84/Default.aspx

#11 Guest_blakemarkwell_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 12:36 PM

Nice report guys! Furthermore, excellent photos Brian! I love Exoglosum sp., I need to see some in flesh, next time I head that way I will have to check them out.

Blake

Edited by blakemarkwell, 29 March 2009 - 12:36 PM.

#12 Guest_midge_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 12:51 PM

nice report, I miss the mad, the sculpins were massive, and the browns got massive eating them. That access point where matt is holding that chub might one of my favorite spots in ohio, looks great now too. is that where you got the toungetied, thats the only place I have found them, and no american brook lampreys?
and are these kettel ponds close, I had no idea there were Iowas nearby...and why are the chubs so big in the trout streams

#13 Guest_schambers_*

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 09:43 PM

What fantastic pictures! I'm glad the rain held off for you. Wish I could have been there.

#14 Guest_smilingfrog_*

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:29 AM

The fish in general seem to be thicker and more robust
then fish from LMR in our area.
you can even see that there check meat is thicker.

I'd have to agree, that is the chunkiest stickleback I've ever seen.

#15 Guest_smbass_*

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 11:47 PM

nice report, I miss the mad, the sculpins were massive, and the browns got massive eating them. That access point where matt is holding that chub might one of my favorite spots in ohio, looks great now too. is that where you got the toungetied, thats the only place I have found them, and no american brook lampreys?
and are these kettel ponds close, I had no idea there were Iowas nearby...and why are the chubs so big in the trout streams

No American brooks on this trip, believe me we tried too. The Tonguetied came from the main stem mad near by where the photo of Matt was taken. Yes there are quite a few little kettle lakes near by. Here are the photos of what we caught in those...

Male_Iowa_Darter1_from_unnamed_kettle_lake_in_western_OH_28Mar09_by_JZ.JPG

Female_Iowa_Darter1_from_unnamed_kettle_lake_in_western_OH_28Mar09_by_JZ.JPG

Male and female Iowa darters.

Male_Least_Darter2_from_unnamed_kettle_lake_in_western_OH_28Mar09_by_JZ.JPG

Female_Least_Darter1_from_unnamed_kettle_lake_in_western_OH_28Mar09_by_JZ.JPG

Male and female least darters.

#16 Guest_natureman187_*

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 11:56 AM

Nice report Brian. Looks like you guys had fun.
I love it when things get posted I've never seen before.

#17 Guest_Uland_*

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 12:14 PM

Brian,

I need E. exile photos (Iowa) and want to sample some Northern Indiana location. I'm not terribly familiar with them and want your opinion on when peak color might be up yonder. About the same time as E. microperca? Your last photo reminded me of this task...Great photos and thanks for posting.

#18 Guest_smbass_*

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:20 PM

Yes about the same time as microperca. This is definitely too early to see full colors on either species. I have done a little sampling in NE Indiana and could give you a couple locations.

#19 Guest_blakemarkwell_*

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 08:44 PM

Nice photos Brian! I love the Microperca group and thanks for sharing some fish that I don't typically see. I hope to see these guys fired up sometime as well. Ironically, it is two species I have yet to experience. From my limited research it appears that far north the Microperca group gets fired up late, late April, early-mid May.

Blake