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elassoma tank with filter?

Started by Guest_skalartor_* , Apr 26 2009 12:04 PM

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#1 Guest_skalartor_*

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 12:04 PM

At first: I am German, so please excuse my mistakes.
I am going to create a new tank for Elassoma evergladei oder Elassoma okefenokee. The tank contains about 10 gallons. My question is whether I need to have a filter in it or not. I thougt it would be possible to substitute this machine by changing the water more often.
Thanks for all responses.

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#2 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:53 PM

At first: I am German, so please excuse my mistakes.
I am going to create a new tank for Elassoma evergladei oder Elassoma okefenokee. The tank contains about 10 gallons. My question is whether I need to have a filter in it or not. I thougt it would be possible to substitute this machine by changing the water more often.
Thanks for all responses.

I keep a ten gallon right now with E. zonatum... heavily planted, no filter... infrequent water changes... and they fish are breeding... so yes, it can work out just fine with no filter for these small guys.

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#3 Guest_Dustin_*

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:50 AM

In my experience, it works better with little or no filtration. A slowly bubbling sponge filter works well if you feel you need a filter. Also, like Michael said, there is little need for frequent water changes either in a well planted tank.

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#4 Guest_skalartor_*

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 01:10 PM

In my experience, it works better with little or no filtration. A slowly bubbling sponge filter works well if you feel you need a filter. Also, like Michael said, there is little need for frequent water changes either in a well planted tank.

thanks for answering my question so soon.

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#5 Guest_choupique_*

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 10:15 AM

I will second those obersvations. A foam filter with a slow stream of bubbles works great. No filtration and good plant growth works too. I know they don't like strong current that power filters and power heads create.

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#6 Guest_gerald_*

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:59 AM

For a pair or trio in a breeding tank I use just a little aeration to prevent surface scum, no filter.
For raising up a large group of young i suggest using a filter (air-powered sponge or box filter).

And a few responses to the questions you haven't yet asked (but probably will):
Use fine sand or bare bottom with leaf litter on top; NOT gravel (fry can get trapped)
Once fry start appearing, dont rely on the tank to produce enough natural food on its own.
I keep several jars of rotifers + paramecium culture for supplemental feed.
If i dont add supplemental live food, i get just a few young that survive and grow, while most die.
Adults dont usually eat their fry, BUT larger fry will attack smaller fry and keep them from eating.

At first: I am German, so please excuse my mistakes.
I am going to create a new tank for Elassoma evergladei oder Elassoma okefenokee. The tank contains about 10 gallons. My question is whether I need to have a filter in it or not. I thougt it would be possible to substitute this machine by changing the water more often.
Thanks for all responses.

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#7 Guest_skalartor_*

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 04:57 PM

For a pair or trio in a breeding tank I use just a little aeration to prevent surface scum, no filter.
For raising up a large group of young i suggest using a filter (air-powered sponge or box filter).

And a few responses to the questions you haven't yet asked (but probably will):
Use fine sand or bare bottom with leaf litter on top; NOT gravel (fry can get trapped)
Once fry start appearing, dont rely on the tank to produce enough natural food on its own.
I keep several jars of rotifers + paramecium culture for supplemental feed.
If i dont add supplemental live food, i get just a few young that survive and grow, while most die.
Adults dont usually eat their fry, BUT larger fry will attack smaller fry and keep them from eating.

you were right. the bottom of my tank is covered with sand as i remembered keeping my former sunfish with this too.
i will get my fish tomorrow, but they will still be very small, maximum five days of age. i am happy that there are still a few paramecium in another glass waiting to get the food of my future fish. you have to know that getting these fish here in germany is not as simple as at yours. i have searched for a long time to get some and now i found them by coincidence. my only problem is that i will get young fry and i have no experiences concerning these fish. for any further tips i would be very grateful.