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An Introduction to Freshwater Fishes as Biological Indicators

Started by Guest_CATfishTONY_* , Aug 15 2009 05:27 PM

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#1 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 05:27 PM

I found this link and thought i would share it, it turned out to be very help full to me.

http://www.epa.gov/b...lIndicators.pdf

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#2 Guest_farmertodd_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 05:34 PM

Jeffro! I didn't know they put this up on the web too. Sheesh.

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#3 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 05:41 PM

sorry Todd i do not understand the remark.

i just thought it could be help full to other less schooled members as my self as a guide to learn more about our native fishes.
it really is well planned and full of good info.

Edited by CATfishTONY, 15 August 2009 - 05:45 PM.

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#4 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 06:09 PM

Jeffro! I didn't know they put this up on the web too. Sheesh.

Farmertedd that was unlike you.

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#5 Guest_AndrewAcropora_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 06:30 PM

This is great, Thanks!!!

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#6 Guest_schambers_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 07:07 PM

sorry Todd i do not understand the remark.

Jeff, one of the authors of this article, is a friend of Todd's. Good find CATfishTONY, thanks for posting it!

After skimming through it, I see that Todd took several of the pictures, too!

Edited by schambers, 15 August 2009 - 07:45 PM.

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#7 Guest_fundulus_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 08:59 PM

I haven't had a chance to really read it yet, but it looks good. The one thing that did impress me was Todd's photo near the beginning of a blenny darter, a close-up head shot. I didn't recognize it at first as a blenny at that magnification, with the green lips! My compliments to the chef. And is Jeffro still around on the Forum? I hope so.

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#8 Guest_farmertodd_*

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 11:18 PM

Sorry Tony, I wasn't criticizing. My close bud Jeff Grabarkiewicz was the author and I provided a lot of photos for it, and never saw any copy. Jeff put this and a guide to using mussels as bioindicators up, both went up unnoticed. That's all. Sorry for the vagueness of my post. I can see how that would read poorly, esp since I forgot to put a smiley face in

Thanks Bruce. We caught them in prime color. They have orange chevrons across the body too. Pretty danged cool fish.

Jeff had a baby girl this spring, and that has made his time disappear

Todd

Edited by farmertodd, 15 August 2009 - 11:23 PM.

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#9 Guest_jdphish_*

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:49 AM

Thanks for the link. Interesting.

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#10 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 06:22 AM

Sorry Tony, I wasn't criticizing. My close bud Jeff Grabarkiewicz was the author and I provided a lot of photos for it, and never saw any copy. Jeff put this and a guide to using mussels as bioindicators up, both went up unnoticed. That's all. Sorry for the vagueness of my post. I can see how that would read poorly, esp since I forgot to put a smiley face in

Thanks Bruce. We caught them in prime color. They have orange chevrons across the body too. Pretty danged cool fish.

Jeff had a baby girl this spring, and that has made his time disappear

Todd

sorry Todd, no worries. nice work. maybe i should have read the whole document before posting a link to it.i can see clearly now you were named many times for your work as T.Crail
please have a mod remove my farmertedd reply as it was unkind.

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#11 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 07:22 AM

someone please remove this thread and start a new one.
were it may be viewed in the fashion its due.
it truly is a well planned and excellent piece of work.
thanks Tony,

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#12 Guest_farmertodd_*

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 10:30 AM

No worries Tony, it was a good reminder to me to think before I hit post (i.e. not when I've run in to get something while having a party, quickly checking the Forum and email

). The internet is great to get information... But when it doesn't work as intended, it's like one of those great Robert Plant wails in "Communication Breakdown"

And that just happens from time to time.

Todd

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#13 Guest_ashtonmj_*

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 11:32 AM

Jeffro! I didn't know they put this up on the web too. Sheesh.

Todd I thought I emailed you about this last winter when it was a draft because I saw your pictures inside and some misnamed figure captions so I was jerking your chain about them. Maybe I got an advanced copy at some EPA meeting to review and I thought it was available to the public then....hmm

Aren't a few of those pictures from when we were playing in the Duck when it was way too high post tropical storm?

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#14 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 03:58 PM

I found this link and thought i would share it, it turned out to be very help full to me.

http://www.epa.gov/b...lIndicators.pdf

After I have read this paper it appears that fish are just not were they are in the water ways
but rather more to do with how clean and or unpolluted the system is.i have all ways wondered why i find creek chubs,fathead minnows,green sunfish and central stonerollers almost any where in any creek to small stream.
then move to a different stream just a few miles away and find grass pickerel,rainbow darters,greenside daters,central longears,various shiners and northern hog suckers in a adjacent creek with much the same water movement and riffle and pools.it appears the waterways around here are for the most part unclean and or polluted.this is a good paper full of more then a life time of study im sure.yet it saddens me to think what we as people have done and are doing to or selves and the area around us.

Edited by CATfishTONY, 16 August 2009 - 03:59 PM.