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Madtom ID

Started by Guest_jamez_* , Sep 03 2009 02:37 PM

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#1 Guest_jamez_*

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 02:37 PM

HI there, am torn on whether this is a stonecat or a slender madtom, they were 2 inches or less found in riffles of the KAw River drainage in NE Kansas. Thanks for any help :smile2:

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#2 Guest_centrarchid_*

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 02:51 PM

Looks to me like a stonecat. Does not have the tiny eyes of the critters I see in the middle Mississipi River.

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#3 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 05:16 PM

I will second that, stonecat with a little fin damage

Edited by CATfishTONY, 03 September 2009 - 05:17 PM.

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#4 Guest_Burbot_*

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 05:27 PM

that slight band of color behind the head tells me stonecat too. all the ones I have seen have that, although I do not know if slenders have that.

3 for stonecat

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#5 Guest_keepnatives_*

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 06:48 PM

I think it is a slender madtom. The stonecats around here anyway don't have those dark edges on the fins.

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#6 Guest_jamez_*

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 07:28 PM

I thought the tail shape and the fin on the underside(hard to see in the photos) told me stonecat but the small size of individuals I saw told me slender. :-k

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#7 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 08:28 PM

I thought the tail shape and the fin on the underside(hard to see in the photos) told me stonecat but the small size of individuals I saw told me slender.

I still say stonecat, i just do not see signs in pic to call it a NSE in pic@ 1.maybe some one like -astonmj-will log in and help in the am.

Edited by CATfishTONY, 03 September 2009 - 08:48 PM.

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#8 Guest_keepnatives_*

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 12:10 AM

compare here

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#9 Guest_centrarchid_*

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 04:18 AM

Let us see the horses mouth (catfish's teeth). Eyes large for a stonecat. Coloration from photographs not final say when fish blanched owing to stress.

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#10 Guest_panfisherteen_*

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 06:10 PM

slender madtom, mouth isnt subterminal like what a stonecat's is

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#11 Guest_blakemarkwell_*

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 06:56 PM

My vote is for N. exilis. Surperficially they look very similar to N. flavus but this one looks different from any N. flavus I've seen.

Blake

Edited by blakemarkwell, 04 September 2009 - 06:57 PM.

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#12 Guest_BTDarters_*

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 11:30 PM

I've caught both species and I would have to say that your fish looks like a Slender Madtom. I'm going on:

1.) Looks too "elongated" to be a Stonecat.

2.) Stonecats have a visible "overbite" that your fish does not appear to have.

3.) Slenders have dark fin edges. This is particularly visible on the dorsal fin of your fish.

keepnatives,

Thanks for posting the comparison on Wisconsin Fish ID. I didn't know that you could do that with that application! :happy:

Brian

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#13 Guest_keepnatives_*

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 12:13 AM

I've caught both species and I would have to say that your fish looks like a Slender Madtom. I'm going on:

1.) Looks too "elongated" to be a Stonecat.

2.) Stonecats have a visible "overbite" that your fish does not appear to have.

3.) Slenders have dark fin edges. This is particularly visible on the dorsal fin of your fish.

keepnatives,

Thanks for posting the comparison on Wisconsin Fish ID. I didn't know that you could do that with that application!

Brian

Credit to Todd Crail, he provided the link on a previous ID question.