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Strange growth on my E. obesus

Started by Guest_eLeMeNt_* , Jan 02 2007 12:39 AM

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#1 Guest_eLeMeNt_*

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:39 AM

Ever since moving my banded sunfish into a new tank it has caught some type of growth around its mouth. Tomorrow I will probably move him into his own 20 gallon tank so the other more aggressive fish don't stress it out. I'll do the usual table spoon of salt per five gallon deal.

Just wondering if anyone else has any advice. I don't want this guy to croak on me. He's eating fine and appears healthy despite the growth.

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#2 Guest_drewish_*

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:53 AM

If you haven't already done so, I'd add aquarium salt... 1 tbsp per 5g and it should be able to handle up to 2 tbsp per 5g. A redfin pickerel I had had the same thing after running into the filter on the tank. That should do it, but if it looks really bad, I'd treat with an anti-fungal like maracyn.

BTW, nice pics. Hope it gets better soon.

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#3 Guest_chad55_*

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:45 AM

I had a guppy with a growth kind of like that on her nose/face. It did not have the fleshy look of that one though. But anyways she lived a VERY long time and was completly normal. I would just add some salt and make sure the other fish don't pick at it.

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#4 Guest_choupique_*

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 11:56 AM

That kind of looks like a female bluespotted sunfish. How long is it, any more pictures of a side view?

I have had that with some of mine, and other species. Seems that as long as the water was clean, and some salt was added that it cleared up really quick.

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#5 Guest_eLeMeNt_*

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 04:27 PM

That kind of looks like a female bluespotted sunfish. How long is it, any more pictures of a side view?

I have had that with some of mine, and other species. Seems that as long as the water was clean, and some salt was added that it cleared up really quick.

When I first got it I also thought it might be a blue spotted sunfish. It is hard to tell when they are young. I know juvenile bluespotteds can also have bands, so you can't really go by the bands when they're so small. A way to tell for sure is counting the caudal peduncle scales. Bluespotteds have a caudal peduncle scale count of 16-18, while bandeds have a count of 19-22. I havn't done a count because I don't want to freak the little guy out. He is already shy enough. What I might try to do is get a good picture of the caudal peduncle and see if I can count from that. I'll post some more pics when I get a chance.

By the way, the fish is only around 2 inches long. I've moved it into its own 20 gallon tank with a table spoon of salt per five gallons. Hopefully it will get better soon.

Thanks for the advice everyone!

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#6 Guest_choupique_*

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 01:26 AM

I am going mostly by its "ear", that is what I call the dark spot on any fishes operculum. At two inches it should start to get nearly as big as the eye in a banded, and the bluespotteds it stays pretty small. My big boy and girl obesus have huge ears. Looks like another set of eyes.

Could be the picture, I was just wondering, since it looks like a bluey to me.

Hope that you knock out what ever that is on its snout. I always run into problems bringing the fish in from the ponds in the fall. Its really sad to loose fish to some small wound that gets badly infected rapidly, before you have time to react.

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#7 Guest_blaze88_*

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Posted 19 January 2007 - 09:04 PM

Any updats on if it is better?

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#8 Guest_eLeMeNt_*

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:39 PM

It passed away the other night. I'm surprised it survived as long as it did. The growth got really bad and spread until the fish was unable to open and close it's jaw. Sorry to see the little guy go.

I did however do a scale count around the caudal peduncle and came up with 16 scales after numerous counts. It definitely was a blue spotted sunny (16-18) and not a banded (19-22).
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#9 Guest_hmt321_*

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:17 PM

do you think it was some type of fungus?

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#10 Guest_blaze88_*

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:22 PM

Thats to bad, for the record, what did you try for treatments?

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#11 Guest_eLeMeNt_*

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 11:03 PM

It looked like a type of fungus to me. I myself wouldn't know for sure though.

I moved the fish into its own 2.5 gallon tank with a tablespoon of salt added. I applied E.M. tablets to the aquarium (following the instructions recommended on the package), which are supposed to treat several types of fish diseases. The white looking fungus eventually cleared up but the fishes bottom jaw appeared to be permanently shifted downward (preventing it from eating). It was definitely a fighter. It struggled like this for about a month until things got so bad that I had to euthanize the fish.