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#1 Guest_GreenLakeYak_*

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 12:49 PM

Here are some more fish I caught in the same area I got the green sunfish from, I'm almost sure they're creek chubs and shiners, but I'd like to be sure.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 12:56 PM

More...

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Also, here is a little guy I got out of the lake I live on, largemouth bass juv.?

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And for fun, here are some pics of the larger fish I've caught on the lake from the kayak:

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 02:20 PM

You're right on the minnows- creek chub and common shiner. The little bass is a smallmouth. Nice shots!

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 03:57 PM

Thanks! I spent forever getting those shots of the fish in that container, I really need to get a photo-tank now that I'm finally getting some decent fish :)

You're right on the minnows- creek chub and common shiner. The little bass is a smallmouth. Nice shots!



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Posted 12 October 2009 - 08:28 PM

I just checked the traps today and got a variety of creek chubs and shiners, along with 2 mudminnows! They're very very colorful, I might be keeping them for a 55gallon native tank with some darters and other fish. I'll have some pictures tomorrow.

I wonder what other fish lurk in that pond...I did catch a 9" creek chub on hook and line out of there as well!

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 08:52 PM

wouldnt doubt if there was some other panfish of some sort, probly some catfish or bullhead as well, and maybe bass

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 12:58 AM

I'd have to agree on the IDs. Creek Chub, Common Shiner, and Smallmouth Bass. Nice finds!

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 09:10 AM

wouldnt doubt if there was some other panfish of some sort, probly some catfish or bullhead as well, and maybe bass


I actually found a bullhead in the tiny pond the other day, yellow and about 3-5" I'd guess. Pretty cool fish but I really wish it was a madtom so I could eventually come back to that pond for keeper fish.

I've heard fish stories from the locals (kids around 10 years old are the only ones who fish this spot :biggrin: ), that they caught shiners, bullhead, bass before. All I've had luck with have been green sunfish, chubs, shiners and the one catfish.

I'll be going back to the pond this week with a seine, dipnet, and some waders to really start picking through that pond.

I would have never guessed that such a small drainage pond could have such a diverse ecosystem, goes to show how tough some of those fish are!

Edited by GreenLakeYak, 18 October 2009 - 09:11 AM.


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Posted 18 October 2009 - 11:40 AM

there are some streams that are like a couple feet wide at their widest that will hold trout, it just depends on oxygenation and food source (as well as cover)

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 11:29 PM

I got a little tank and but some black paper on the back, sides, and bottom. Turned out ok, this was with a point&shoot camera, I'll see how well it works with the SLR soon hopefully.

Here's another one, I'm really not sure on this one, central stoneroller?
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And for a little extra here is a mudminnow, creek chub, and bullhead from the same pond:
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Edited by GreenLakeYak, 31 October 2009 - 11:32 PM.


#11 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 10:09 AM

I got a little tank and but some black paper on the back, sides, and bottom. Turned out ok, this was with a point&shoot camera, I'll see how well it works with the SLR soon hopefully.

Here's another one, I'm really not sure on this one, central stoneroller?


Yes, absolutely a stoneroller... that tri-colored dorsal fin and the tubercules on the head are a dead givaway for a male stoneroller.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 10:33 AM

Yes, absolutely a stoneroller... that tri-colored dorsal fin and the tubercules on the head are a dead givaway for a male stoneroller.


Great, I was really happy to see that, used to only getting green sunfish and chubs from that area. It's fairly large, about 4-5", how would it do with smaller mudminnows, shiners, and maybe some darters? Do larger ones ever eat smaller fish in the same tank?

I got this one in a minnow trap, there's a little tunnel underneath a bridge that runs from a very shallow stream, into a very small pond (1-2ft deep and about 6ft by 8ft). I'll have to get a seine and go through the tunnel.

I believe it's a sucker mouthed variety.

#13 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 03:37 PM

Great, I was really happy to see that, used to only getting green sunfish and chubs from that area. It's fairly large, about 4-5", how would it do with smaller mudminnows, shiners, and maybe some darters? Do larger ones ever eat smaller fish in the same tank?

I believe it's a sucker mouthed variety.


Not really a sucker mouthed fish exactly... Stonerollers make their living scraping algae (and other stuff) off of the stones in the stream... they have raspy lips to accomplish this... if you snorkle with 'em, you will see "herds" of these "stream cows" grazing in the current on all the hard surfaces.

Given the above, stonerollers are almost never (never say never) a threat to their tankmates.

Personally, I have had limited success with stonerollers in tanks. They need a high level of greenstuff in their food and will ont do well with just brine shrimp or flakes, maybe try sinking herbivore pellets. They also seem to need high levels of oxygen in the water (and maybe for that reason seem to prefer cool water). They are pretty active and seem to have high metabolic emands in general.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 04:35 PM

Not really a sucker mouthed fish exactly... Stonerollers make their living scraping algae (and other stuff) off of the stones in the stream... they have raspy lips to accomplish this... if you snorkle with 'em, you will see "herds" of these "stream cows" grazing in the current on all the hard surfaces.

Given the above, stonerollers are almost never (never say never) a threat to their tankmates.

Personally, I have had limited success with stonerollers in tanks. They need a high level of greenstuff in their food and will ont do well with just brine shrimp or flakes, maybe try sinking herbivore pellets. They also seem to need high levels of oxygen in the water (and maybe for that reason seem to prefer cool water). They are pretty active and seem to have high metabolic emands in general.


Interesting looking fish though, more so than a normal chub or sucker. Sounds like they would be great for a planted stream-style tank, which I plan on doing. I'm still planning out the tank and getting all the supplies I need before collecting and holding fish for it. Just got a bunch of soil for substrate, now just need to get some PVC pipes for the filter system, gravel, rocks & driftwood, and some plants.

Hopefully the stoneroller won't turn to eating the plants?

I got some HBH supersoft krill pellets for the mudminnows and other fish, and saw they had HBH supersoft spirulina pellets. I also picked up some ocean nutrition flakes with spirulina for the shiners and chubs, so that should be good for the stoneroller if it goes for flake. If not the hbh spirulina pellets might be best for it I think. Thoughts?

On another note, I'm never using a heater again, had one break in my bait-tank and literally cook the fish overnight! Luckily they were all fish I was going to use for bait anyway...

Edited by GreenLakeYak, 01 November 2009 - 04:39 PM.





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