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#1 Guest_trojannemo_*

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 12:40 AM

hey guys...went dipnetting again (is this getting annoying for you?) and have some more pictures to post :smile2:

the day was beautiful for dipnetting...unfortunately I got stung by what i'm assuming is a walking catfish. I had two in the net when it happened, though I didn't see it when it stung me. it went between my nail and the skin and it began bleeding and throbing and was extremely painful (perhaps i have very low pain treshhold? :oops: ) for over two hours...as a result of which I wasn't very concetrated and did not get great pictures nor pictures of everything we caught...sorry!

here are the pictures I do have:

a new species for me, i was told these are Black Acaras (C. bimaculatum) - is this ID correct? these guys were very abundant in this spot...
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right in the spot where all the acara were caught, i kept getting fry in my net, which I assume were Acara fry:
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we also caught many brilliantly colored salvini. even the small ones had this very dark, strong red spot:
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both species caught together in the same spot repeatedly. if you look closely on the far right you can see another fry:
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here is one of the three catfish caught...is this the Walking Catfish? if not, what is it? this is also another new species for me!
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as usual caught many Mayan cichlids (C. urophthalmus):
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surprisingly only caught ONE T. mariae (spotted tilapia):
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also caught only one bluefin killifish (L. goodei):
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managed to catch a single Bluespotted Sunfish (E. gloriosus):
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another new species for me - i have no clue what these fish are. everyone calls them "gobies" - but what kind? I can't seem to find any info on them...help me out? caught two of them at the same time in very shallow water - breeding pair or something?
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http://www.keepitfis...range/goby2.jpg

as always caught several sunfish...i keep getting confused with these, they look very similar to me...
http://www.keepitfis...nge/sunfish.jpg
http://www.keepitfis...ge/sunfish2.jpg
http://www.keepitfis...ge/sunfish3.jpg
http://www.keepitfis...ge/sunfish4.jpg

and the inverterbrates:

as usual took several ramshorns snails home:
http://www.keepitfis...ange/snails.jpg

other snails (MTS and trapdoors?):
http://www.keepitfis...nge/snails2.jpg

i tend to only catch one crayfish at a time? here's the one i caugh yesterday:
http://www.keepitfis...ge/crayfish.jpg

also caught me some ghost shrimp but didnt manage to get pictures of them.

this is the bigger of two clams I caught - this is the first time i ever catch live clams :)
http://www.keepitfis...orange/clam.jpg

that's it for my pictures. i took home the snails, clam, crayfish, ghost shrimp, a pair of acaras and the two gobies.
the other fish were released after photographing.

comments welcome and as always, help with IDs needed and highly appreciated :D

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 06:34 AM

that goby is a sleeper goby, Dormitator maculatus

I have had some for a few years, one individual ate several of my flag fin shiners but the other ones are very well behaved.

picture of an adult

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 06:45 AM

As usual, nice pictures! (Too, bad most are introduced :o ).
I will try to help with you ID questions.
The catfish looks most like a Tadpole Madtom.
HMT321 is certainly right, that you have a Fat Sleeper.
Your first three sunfish pics appear to be Warmouth (no doubt the first one is)
The last sunfish picture is Spotted Sunfish.

Very interesting trips. I wonder if there is any market for those cichlids since you are not disposing of them.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 09:40 AM

thanks for the help with the IDs guys...now to find more info on those fat sleepers!

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:08 PM

I think sunfish pics 1 and 3 are warmouth, but # 2 is almost certainly a beat-up flier... note the orange/black ocellus in rear of dorsal fin.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:55 PM

I believe the unidentified snails under the ramshorn photos are a healthy mix of Campeloma and Pleurocera species.

Nice photos and report! Fish and snails are just too much fun.

Blake

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:58 PM

again, thanks for the comments guys!

here's one more picture for you that i forgot to include in the original post:

Jewel cichlid (H. bimaculatus)
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:41 AM

# 2 is almost certainly a beat-up flier... note the orange/black ocellus in rear of dorsal fin.

I will support that.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:48 AM

And the clam is an Asian Corbicula. Native freshwater mussels are more oval to rectangular in shape with the umbo closer to one end. Corbicula is roughly triangular with the umbo near the middle. (Umbo is the oldest part, the original baby clam's shell.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:43 PM

thanks for the replies with the IDs. i had already thought that was the id for the clam using myFWC's clam identification guide (yes they have one of those...)

this is a fun hobby isnt it! :-)

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 09:50 PM

I will support that.


is this the fish you're referring to?
http://myfwc.com/wil...rfish_Flier.htm

if so, i dont see the similarities? i'm trying to get positive ids to match each picture for a project i'm spearheading at my aquarium society and this one im not too sure about.
thanks for the help!

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:15 AM

That's the one. It's a bit hard to see with the fins held down like in the picture, but juvenile fliers look more like this...

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or this

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At that size, your sunfish should have an orange/black ocellus like the ones in the pictures. Very obvious if you can get a decent look at the back of the dorsal fin. If it doesn't have it, it's probably something else, but I'm still voting for juvie Flier.

Or possibly a stressed out warmouth?

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:04 PM

You're right. My bad. Too few anal spines for flier, should have noticed that right off. I can believe beat-up warmouth.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:34 PM

Dave missing an ID? That's gotta be a NANFA first!

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:18 AM

Dave missing an ID? That's gotta be a NANFA first!


Ha! Nope (but I'm not going to tell you what the other one was!). Got my mind in 1000 other places right now, leaving for a month of fish collecting in Myanmar tomorrow, with a new super-secret fish-catching contraption thanks to netmaker... I'm lucky I didn't ID that warmouth as an ambassid!

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 01:02 PM

You're taking your camera, right?

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:02 PM

Ha! Nope (but I'm not going to tell you what the other one was!). Got my mind in 1000 other places right now, leaving for a month of fish collecting in Myanmar tomorrow, with a new super-secret fish-catching contraption thanks to netmaker... I'm lucky I didn't ID that warmouth as an ambassid!


If Greg made it, it's gotta be good.



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