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Posted 08 November 2009 - 03:31 PM

Poor water quality management encountered so far.


How much impact does individual variations in markings have on the cross? I noticed the pumpkinseeds spots took over so I assumed the cross used a heavilly spotted pumpkinseed, but I have also seen dull greenish pumpkinseeds without much spotting and dark pumpkinseeds with bands on them. Would pumpkinseed coloration dominate the cross if other color phases of pumpkinseed were used?

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 08:28 PM

How much impact does individual variations in markings have on the cross? I noticed the pumpkinseeds spots took over so I assumed the cross used a heavilly spotted pumpkinseed, but I have also seen dull greenish pumpkinseeds without much spotting and dark pumpkinseeds with bands on them. Would pumpkinseed coloration dominate the cross if other color phases of pumpkinseed were used?


Some of the variation you mention can be exhibited by a single fish (i.e. bands, darkening, spots). Female pure pumpkinseed usually lack the orange spots.

When we crossed pumpkinseed with redear, the spotted pattern was much more pronounced in the hybrid than in the pure pumpkinseed despite redear lacking orange spots. When pumpkinseed were crossed with other species such as bluegill and redspotted the spotting pattern of pumpkinseeds was absent. So I think depends more on species involved than individual variation within pumpkinseeds.

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 09:36 PM

Poor water quality management encountered so far.

Also on the Warbuck cross(L.gulosus X L.marginatus) even though a small percent hatched the pro-larva that did looked very deformed (Bent tails, missing yolk sacs Ect ect)

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 11:44 AM

Also on the Warbuck cross(L.gulosus X L.marginatus) even though a small percent hatched the pro-larva that did looked very deformed (Bent tails, missing yolk sacs Ect ect)


REPEAT WITH ACCEPTABLE WATER QUALITY! Cretenism should not be so evident in an F1 hybrid such as this.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 12:55 AM

How do you hybridize anything with a dollar sunfish anyways? in my experience they constantly hurt and harrass most fish and will kill other sunfish. Ever since I lost a banded to one I kept him in a seperate tank and fear introducing him back into my big tank with a small pumpkinseed and a rock bass.

How do you keep a dollar placid enough to get hybrids.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 08:17 PM

How do you hybridize anything with a dollar sunfish anyways? in my experience they constantly hurt and harrass most fish and will kill other sunfish. Ever since I lost a banded to one I kept him in a seperate tank and fear introducing him back into my big tank with a small pumpkinseed and a rock bass.

How do you keep a dollar placid enough to get hybrids.


I caught a female dollar in the act of spawning and manually fertilized the eggs.

Some Lepomis hybrids will go naturaly, some will not unless mate selection is controlled, and there are some that just will not hybridize on there own, reguardless.

Edited by basssmaster, 15 December 2009 - 08:17 PM.





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