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What fish are found in PA's Neshaminy Creek?


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Posted 15 November 2009 - 01:08 PM

I went to the Neshaminy Creek once and saw sunnies and banded killifish. Does anybody here know exactly what species of sunnies are found in the creek? Everything I looked at only says "sunnies."

Also, what other fish can be found there? I heard American Eel hang around there too.

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 01:43 PM

the only things i found out of there are sunnies. yellow bullhead catfish. there are SMB. i havent really gotten down and dirty there yet only been there a few times with a rod and hook. i'd like to get a seine and go. there are some type of minnows that are impossible to catch cause they are so fast they have a black stripe down the middle of them.

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 02:06 PM

the only things i found out of there are sunnies. yellow bullhead catfish. there are SMB. i havent really gotten down and dirty there yet only been there a few times with a rod and hook. i'd like to get a seine and go. there are some type of minnows that are impossible to catch cause they are so fast they have a black stripe down the middle of them.


Any idea what kind of sunnies? And it sounds like you're talking about blacknosed dace for the minnows.

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 04:16 PM

Where is it, county, nearest city? What drainage is it located? We're likely all not familar with a creek just by name.

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 07:32 PM

Where is it, county, nearest city? What drainage is it located? We're likely all not familar with a creek just by name.


PA, Bucks County, nearest big name city I can think of is Philadelphia(it's north of Philly). Part of the greater Delaware River watershed. I was just expecting PA natives to be familiar with it.

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 07:42 PM

Try this NatureServe Fish Distributions.

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 08:25 PM

Try this NatureServe Fish Distributions.


The link isn't working

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 09:09 PM

Scientific Name Common Name Occurrence Status
Anguilla rostrata American Eel Current
Alosa aestivalis Blueback Herring Current
Alosa mediocris Hickory Shad Current
Umbra pygmaea Eastern Mudminnow Current
Esox americanus Redfin or Grass Pickerel Current
Notropis bifrenatus Bridle Shiner Current
Notropis chalybaeus Ironcolor Shiner Current
Luxilus cornutus Common Shiner Current
Notropis hudsonius Spottail Shiner Current
Notropis procne Swallowtail Shiner Current
Hybognathus regius Eastern Silvery Minnow Current
Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner Current
Notropis amoenus Comely Shiner Current
Cyprinella analostana Satinfin Shiner Current
Cyprinella spiloptera Spotfin Shiner Current
Rhinichthys atratulus Blacknose Dace Current
Rhinichthys cataractae Longnose Dace Current
Semotilus atromaculatus Creek Chub Current
Catostomus commersoni White Sucker Current
Erimyzon oblongus Creek Chubsucker Current
Ameiurus catus White Catfish Current
Ameiurus nebulosus Brown Bullhead Current
Noturus gyrinus Tadpole Madtom Current
Noturus insignis Margined Madtom Current
Fundulus diaphanus Banded Killifish Current
Apeltes quadracus Fourspine Stickleback Current
Gasterosteus aculeatus Threespine Stickleback Current
Morone americana White Perch Current
Morone saxatilis Striped Bass Current
Enneacanthus gloriosus Bluespotted Sunfish Current
Enneacanthus obesus Banded Sunfish Current
Lepomis auritus Redbreast Sunfish Current
Lepomis gibbosus Pumpkinseed Current
Etheostoma olmstedi Tessellated Darter Current
Perca flavescens Yellow Perch Current
Alosa pseudoharengus Alewife Current
Alosa sapidissima American Shad Current
Dorosoma cepedianum Gizzard Shad Current
Exoglossum maxillingua Cutlips Minnow Current
Esox niger Chain Pickerel Current
Semotilus corporalis Fallfish Current
Aphredoderus sayanus Pirate Perch Current
Acipenser oxyrinchus Atlantic Sturgeon Current
Acipenser brevirostrum Shortnose Sturgeon Current
Carpiodes cyprinus Quillback Current
Strongylura marina Atlantic Needlefish Current
Trinectes maculatus Hogchoker Current
Acantharchus pomotis Mud Sunfish Historical
Enneacanthus chaetodon Blackbanded Sunfish Historical
Etheostoma fusiforme Swamp Darter Historical


http://www.natureser...jsp?huc=2040201
this is what can be found.

Edited by sonix215, 15 November 2009 - 09:10 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2009 - 02:56 AM

Nice list. I'm heading to your side of the Commonwealth sometime, maybe in the spring ;-)

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 03:05 PM

Nice list. I'm heading to your side of the Commonwealth sometime, maybe in the spring ;-)

ive never found any of them except teh sunnies and bullhead. although i dont know the correct way to do all this i just recently got into the hobby. love it so far. i really need to invest in a seine.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 04:40 PM

ive never found any of them except teh sunnies and bullhead. although i dont know the correct way to do all this i just recently got into the hobby. love it so far. i really need to invest in a seine.


Same here sonix. I've seen green sunnies, that they don't even mention on that list. I don't know what to make of that list. It doesn't mention smallmouth bass on there, like you said you've seen. I also know for a fact that largemouth are in there too. And the PA Fish and Boat website says the redfin and grass pickerel only occur in the upper northwest corner of PA.

That's not gonna make me stop checking out the creek though.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 07:03 PM

Same here sonix. I've seen green sunnies, that they don't even mention on that list. I don't know what to make of that list. It doesn't mention smallmouth bass on there, like you said you've seen. I also know for a fact that largemouth are in there too. And the PA Fish and Boat website says the redfin and grass pickerel only occur in the upper northwest corner of PA.

That's not gonna make me stop checking out the creek though.

yeah man i've also seen carp. i go fishing at a little pond called horsham park and the neshaminy is right next to it and i switch back and forth from the pond to the creek. next spring im lookin to go out again.

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 09:58 PM

Same here sonix. I've seen green sunnies, that they don't even mention on that list. I don't know what to make of that list. It doesn't mention smallmouth bass on there, like you said you've seen. I also know for a fact that largemouth are in there too. And the PA Fish and Boat website says the redfin and grass pickerel only occur in the upper northwest corner of PA.

The NatureServe lists are not comprehensive. If a fish is on the list, somebody probably found it there at some time, that doesn't mean you will though. A fish not being on the list does not mean it's not there. It just means it hasn't been found or reported. I've found many fish that are not listed in the NatureServe lists, and I'm sure most people here can tell you the same thing.

Within Pennsylvania, grass pickerels only exist in the northwest, in the Ohio and Lake Erie drainages. From what I have read, redfin pickerels exist in central and eastern Pennsylvania. Supposedly they are uncommon but present in the Susquehanna drainage, and common in the Delaware drainage. So I've read. One of these days I'm going to get out that way to find out. It's about a six-hour drive from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia, so it's not going to be a day trip. Maybe a weekend trip in the spring when the days are longer.

Of course, you're welcome to come to my side of the state...

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Posted 18 November 2009 - 10:41 PM

The NatureServe lists are not comprehensive. If a fish is on the list, somebody probably found it there at some time, that doesn't mean you will though. A fish not being on the list does not mean it's not there. It just means it hasn't been found or reported. I've found many fish that are not listed in the NatureServe lists, and I'm sure most people here can tell you the same thing.

Within Pennsylvania, grass pickerels only exist in the northwest, in the Ohio and Lake Erie drainages. From what I have read, redfin pickerels exist in central and eastern Pennsylvania. Supposedly they are uncommon but present in the Susquehanna drainage, and common in the Delaware drainage. So I've read. One of these days I'm going to get out that way to find out. It's about a six-hour drive from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia, so it's not going to be a day trip. Maybe a weekend trip in the spring when the days are longer.

Of course, you're welcome to come to my side of the state...


Ok that's what I figured.

I'v been to Pittsburgh before to see my Phillies beat your Pirates lol. I stayed the weekend, and I know for certain the ride is 6 hrs. I'd love to go back to see the more natural parts of the area!

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 05:42 PM

The NatureServe lists are not comprehensive. If a fish is on the list, somebody probably found it there at some time, that doesn't mean you will though. A fish not being on the list does not mean it's not there. It just means it hasn't been found or reported. I've found many fish that are not listed in the NatureServe lists, and I'm sure most people here can tell you the same thing.

Within Pennsylvania, grass pickerels only exist in the northwest, in the Ohio and Lake Erie drainages. From what I have read, redfin pickerels exist in central and eastern Pennsylvania. Supposedly they are uncommon but present in the Susquehanna drainage, and common in the Delaware drainage. So I've read. One of these days I'm going to get out that way to find out. It's about a six-hour drive from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia, so it's not going to be a day trip. Maybe a weekend trip in the spring when the days are longer.

Of course, you're welcome to come to my side of the state...

hey if you ever come to the eastern side give me a shout! I'd love to come out and get some experience under my boots!

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 05:59 PM

The link isn't working


Try it again later. The website seems to go down at times. Overall, though, it is quite valuable for fish distributions.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 08:04 AM

Having seined in the Neshaminy, I can say for sure there are Green Sunfish, Bluegill, Redear Sunfish, Banded Killiefish, Blacknose Dace, Tessellated darters, Creek Chubs, Smallmouth Bass, various minnow species i'm not good enough to identify and not willing to take home to picture. Also numerous species of crayfish(including a couple of invasives I've caught with some buddies). All in all, its a fun creek to seine.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 09:11 PM

I've fished in that area while visiting my family in the Ambler area. I've observed blacknose dace, tesselated darters, satin fin shiners, creek chubs, quillbacks, northern hogsucker, and what might be white sucker, red breast sunfish, bluegills. Plenty of other species there as well, I'm sure. I'm hoping to visit again in the late spring or early summer. Perhaps we can set up a collecting trip then.




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