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A W/W Wierd Warmouth


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Posted 09 January 2007 - 01:05 PM

This is the warmouth I caught when I was collecting with drecon in Louisiana. I just thought it would make a good conversation piece. Anyone see a wierdo like this before??

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 01:11 PM

Looks like a purebred warmouth

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 01:13 PM

Looks like a purebred warmouth

Looks like a normal adult warmouth to me also. How long is it?

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 01:25 PM

About the purebred warmouth statement you would have had to see this one in hand when caught. Cameras sometime do not catch all the eye sees. This guy had large red spots on his sides below the lateral line. And the red sheen was I mean RED RED. I have caught many warmouths before and never before have I seen one like this. So I agree to disagree with that statement. It was around six to sevenish in length. But definatly not pure bred. At least in my "Humble" opinion. I have several young and I mean three and a half inches and under and they look like normal adult warmouths in apperance. And I have had adult ones as well, but never one like this.To me this is definatly a freak of some sort. Any way I do not have my house bet on it so no big deal just thought you guys/ladies would like to see it. Actually even after looking at the photos I have posted here it looks freekish to me. You guys are saying you have seen warmouths with this overall red appearance? The center photo is one I took after being put it in a little tank so I could photograph it. So it is obviously blushing like warmouths do but you can still see the red spots though not as well as when first caught.

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 02:36 PM

You could not rule up this warmouth's family tree there is some genetics from another species. But everything about this fish besides its coloration and pattern are warmouth.

Besides the extra red, the way its more marbled than barred with checker like markings which are normal for warmouth. This could be a sport.

I had some Fundlopanchax garnderi misaje years back. These are normally blue fish with red spots, and yellow orange margins on the fins. One of them came out pure blue, with some greenish spots on the fins, and yellowish almost white margins on the fins. The fish seemed to lack any red coloration.

It is normal for male warmouth to have a bright red to red orange spot where the rayed part of the dorsal fin meets the body. I have seen warmouth with more than one of these red spots along that area, and a few down into the body. They did not have near the red this fish has, and had the typical checkering banding pattern on the body.

This fish also seems to have big flushes of red coming of what looked like a distinct red edging to the unpaired fins in the photos of it out of the water.

One thing, are warmouth nesting at all in your area right now? I have seen male warmouth look pretty odd in coloration when they are on nests.

Although Badis badis is called the chameleon fish, the warmouth beats that little south Asian fish in its chameleon like ability to change color and even pattern with moods.

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 03:11 PM

I've seen a lot of color variation in warmouth. Some have a red sheen, some more of a yellow/orangey sheen and others with blue and green. I guess there are many contributing factors that affect color like diet, water conditions and maybe even temp. I still stick with the warmouth ID.

As for the size question, maybe I should have paid more attention to the background and noticed that in was in what appears to be a 5 gal bucket. Just curious as to the size. Please don't be offended at my silly question.

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 03:18 PM

I've seen a lot of color variation in warmouth. Some have a red sheen, some more of a yellow/orangey sheen and others with blue and green. I guess there are many contributing factors that affect color like diet, water conditions and maybe even temp. I still stick with the warmouth ID.

As for the size question, maybe I should have paid more attention to the background and noticed that in was in what appears to be a 5 gal bucket. Just curious as to the size. Please don't be offended at my silly question.


I also see warmouth with a yellow/orange coloration as well as the blue sheen. I certainly don't think these slightly different colorations make them a hybrid. Your fish looks just like my local warmouth.

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 05:03 PM

I've seen a lot of color variation in warmouth. Some have a red sheen, some more of a yellow/orangey sheen and others with blue and green. I guess there are many contributing factors that affect color like diet, water conditions and maybe even temp. I still stick with the warmouth ID.

As for the size question, maybe I should have paid more attention to the background and noticed that in was in what appears to be a 5 gal bucket. Just curious as to the size. Please don't be offended at my silly question.



No problem I am known to be short on tact and quick on wit at times sorry. And what could have affected its color is the type of crawfish down there and their different color than the ones where I live. The only warmouths I have seen is ones I have caught here near Chattanooga Tennessee. And I have never never caught any less than like seven or eight inches. When in Louisiana I can catch young ones all the time. They must be in short supply here or something. Lets just call it what ever we want and make a new species sound good? :D/




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