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Posted 12 January 2007 - 11:54 AM

http://www.bradfordstreetpress.com/

I suggest picking it up proceeds go to a good cause.

There is also an Exotics recipe contest for the second edition:
http://forums.egulle...topic=97703&hl=

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:40 PM

Very nice! I definitely need to get myself a copy. Although honestly I must say.... the round goby wasn't all that great :( I'm surprised that every alley cat in town didn't gravitate towards the lab after we opened it :-&

I wonder if carp is any better? From what I understand, they make up about 40% of the world's aquacultured fishes, so they can't be that bad, right?

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 05:51 PM

Very nice! I definitely need to get myself a copy. Although honestly I must say.... the round goby wasn't all that great :( I'm surprised that every alley cat in town didn't gravitate towards the lab after we opened it :-&

I wonder if carp is any better? From what I understand, they make up about 40% of the world's aquacultured fishes, so they can't be that bad, right?


I've eaten carp in the Czech Republic, Poland and Germany, and it's pretty good. Especially in the Czech lands carp is the traditional meal on Christmas Day so they pay a lot of attention to rearing and preparing the fish. I recommend Zander in Austria, too.

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

I've eaten carp in the Czech Republic, Poland and Germany, and it's pretty good. Especially in the Czech lands carp is the traditional meal on Christmas Day so they pay a lot of attention to rearing and preparing the fish. I recommend Zander in Austria, too.


I've cooked up carp (common) hundreds of times..it is actually quite good when prepared right and at the right time. The key I have found is to harvest them in the winter. Something about the cold water really freshens them up and makes the taste quite delicate and good.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 12:18 PM

What would be the best way to harvest the carp during WINTER: using a rod and reel, bowfishing, or some other way in the northern states?

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 06:19 PM

What would be the best way to harvest the carp during WINTER: using a rod and reel, bowfishing, or some other way in the northern states?


Rod and reel, Bowfishing, spearing or my preferred method Atlatl spearing (kind of a cross between Bowfishing and spearing) works year round..

An Atlatl is the ideal Carp fishing method in my opinion as they are easy to carry, easy to make and easy to employ. I can't really say they are easy to use effectively without practice however...

Here are a couple good links about this method and a couple pics of mine that I use:
http://www.msu.edu/~...nting/carp.html
http://www.thudscave.../npaa/index.htm
http://www.worldatlatl.org/

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 06:56 PM

Thankyou for the helpful information!

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 07:36 PM

I would never have guessed that Brooklamprey is a ninja. That equipment looks like more fun than a bayonet attack.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:18 PM

thats some good fleching I could never get any of my fleching to work how did you do it brooklampery? I tried canadian geese feathers and turkery feather both with no luck
btw all pictures in my D&D books atlatl javelins had heavy iron or stone just below the tip for longer range do they normaly have that or is it just something made up?

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 09:30 PM

I would never have guessed that Brooklamprey is a ninja. That equipment looks like more fun than a bayonet attack.

LOL...I consider myself more of a late Clovis man caught in modern days :P ......Never hurts to study the Primitive arts of existence. I've found that more than one time the old arts of Flintknapping and making fire with a hand drill has come in handy when out in the field. That and I can find food anywhere..kill it or find it and make it taste good using just about nothing but what can be found locally :P

thats some good fleching I could never get any of my fleching to work how did you do it brooklampery? I tried canadian geese feathers and turkery feather both with no luck
btw all pictures in my D&D books atlatl javelins had heavy iron or stone just below the tip for longer range do they normaly have that or is it just something made up?


I use heron or Goose feathers for most fletching, heron being my favorite...Trick is to get all things right from the back on the nock end first and also to sand / scrape the quills very well. I do not full wrap darts but instead just wrap at the front back and once or twice in the middle. I like to use very fine sinew for the middle lashing but thicker at the front and nock end.

I'm not familiar with the D&D stuff but I do know they tend to follow established patterns for weapons..It is not uncommon to use a stone called a 'banner stone' on the atlatl it's self you can see this in the pics above, size position and type can vary to ones throwing habits..this adds a small bit of power to the throw..On some darts themselves I will use heavy wood sleeves to add tip weight and balance a dart it it is off balance and to preserve a higher tip weight with lighter points. This is not a made up idea but may be embellished a bit to use stone or metal for it on the darts themselves. A good dart shaft should actually be multiple use and should be able to take down a deer a carp or a duck with only changing the point and foreshaft, only minimal quickly employed alterations for balance and weight should ever be needed.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:19 AM

So now that we know the right time of year to go after the buggers, what is your favorite way to prepare them Brooklamprey?

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 04:04 PM

I understand how this would work in shallow water ( up to five feet ) for carp, maybe a little deeper for koi escapees from private ponds. But what would be a good technique for deeper water in the winter? If there is deeper water in the winter that is where the carp will be in the northern states. In Europe people use underwater harpoon guns with a reel and thin rope attached to the harpoon, but:

1. I don't know if that's legal here

2. In the winter the water is COLD! And buying a warm SCUBA suit is expenive.

So what would be the best way to get at them in deeper water in the winter?

One other thing: why is the Russian flag upside down in the background of the images?

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 06:54 PM

I understand how this would work in shallow water ( up to five feet ) for carp, maybe a little deeper for koi escapees from private ponds. But what would be a good technique for deeper water in the winter? If there is deeper water in the winter that is where the carp will be in the northern states. In Europe people use underwater harpoon guns with a reel and thin rope attached to the harpoon, but:

1. I don't know if that's legal here

2. In the winter the water is COLD! And buying a warm SCUBA suit is expenive.

So what would be the best way to get at them in deeper water in the winter?

One other thing: why is the Russian flag upside down in the background of the images?


I generally fish (spear fish) in shallows when ice is not present or is broken during the winter. Works quite well as they really do not move very deep even during the winter. I have used just standard hand spears and harpoons through the ice as well to about 10 foot...I'm not sure of the legality of non-hand propelled devices for spearing in winter...Never honestly thought about it.

Thats not an Upside down Russian flag BTW...Thats a Serbian flag :)

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 07:31 PM

So now that we know the right time of year to go after the buggers, what is your favorite way to prepare them Brooklamprey?


Oops I never answered this.....

My personal favorite method is quite easy.
1. De-Head and gut the fish (No reason to scale or skin it)
2. Slice it down the back so it is 'butterflied'
3. Rinse the fish down very well in cold water and rub it heavily with rock or coarse salt (especially on the skin side) while rinsing.
4. let sit in Cold water for a few hours with the addition of salt, Brown sugar, (crushed fresh or dried elder berry / shadberry or current, and rose hip if you can get these is good also)
5. take fish out of the brine mixture and again rub with Brown sugar (or other available fruit juce and pulp)
6. start a nice big wood fire in your backyard using natural collected wood.
7. Splint the fish on wood skewers so it is butterflied and securely fastened (there are a few ways to do this)
8. place fish about 2 foot from fire and let slowly smoke for 3 or four hours while you drink good beer and enjoy a good fire....
9. eat the sucker by it's self with wild rice or with whatever.....Yummy hot smoked carp.....

There are a lot of variations one can do with the above...Key is just to clean it good and cook it slow..Make sure however that it is Hot smoked and that the temp of the fish reaches at least 140...




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