Theres this spot really close to me (10 minute bike ride or so from my house) which I have always wondered whats in it. Now, I'm hoping to get either a couple central mudminnows, a couple iowa darters, or maybe one of each (I would be putting them in my 20g and then a 5g when I go to college, thats why i want a low amount). Now, this spot is secluded from one of my favourite fishing spots (longnose gar), which it is like a "back pond". Its secluded because its simply water that goes through some reeds (they get somewhat dense at a point), and then its a very big area of shallow water (deepest is maybe 2' or so). No gar or bass go back there, but carp spawn in there during June/early July. The bottom is made of sand, ground up shells, gravel, and is covered by plants (not sure what the plants are, but theyre dark and short). There are also rocks and the odd boulder back there as well. Now Im sure this spot gets warm quick since the bottom is kinda dark and it is shallow, and it never gets rough in there other than a ripple. Here are the pics of the spot:




So, would I be in luck for either the iowa darters or the mudminnows if I tossed a minnow trap or dipnetted back there?

Theres this spot really close to me (10 minute bike ride or so from my house) which I have always wondered whats in it. Now, I'm hoping to get either a couple central mudminnows, a couple iowa darters, or maybe one of each (I would be putting them in my 20g and then a 5g when I go to college, thats why i want a low amount). Now, this spot is secluded from one of my favourite fishing spots (longnose gar), which it is like a "back pond". Its secluded because its simply water that goes through some reeds (they get somewhat dense at a point), and then its a very big area of shallow water (deepest is maybe 2' or so). No gar or bass go back there, but carp spawn in there during June/early July. The bottom is made of sand, ground up shells, gravel, and is covered by plants (not sure what the plants are, but theyre dark and short). There are also rocks and the odd boulder back there as well. Now Im sure this spot gets warm quick since the bottom is kinda dark and it is shallow, and it never gets rough in there other than a ripple. Here are the pics of the spot:




So, would I be in luck for either the iowa darters or the mudminnows if I tossed a minnow trap or dipnetted back there?

Only one way to find out!
I wonder if there might be pickerel in there. We have redfin pickerel in similar habitat here on Long Island. I don't think those are in your drainage, but maybe a similar
species. Maybe bullhead catfish as well.

Only one way to find out!
I wonder if there might be pickerel in there. We have redfin pickerel in similar habitat here on Long Island. I don't think those are in your drainage, but maybe a similar
species. Maybe bullhead catfish as well.

It would be grass pickerel if there were any around here (we're too far north for redfins), but i doubt there are any in there.

blue gill!!! pumpkinseeds.. prob my guess....since those things are everywhere

i havent seen any in there yet, ive only seen carp and small minnows in there, however with the dark substrate im probably very easily missing fish

Maybe some N redbelly dace and/or pearl dace.

looks like a good spot for pickeral, pumpkinseed, bullhead, and golden shiners. (if the pond has goldens usually they will be the only shiner species, rivers however are more diverse).

As for pickeral, aren't grass and redfin the same species? Why do they get treated as seperate? (Maybe I should start using the "American Pickeral" name used on wikipedia). Maybe a better question is why don't other species get split up as commonly as that one does?

Grass Pickerel are a subspecies of Redfins. Now, the closest grass pickerel are to me are around 30-40 minutes from me, they are found in an isolated spot on the Severn River, and they are rumoured to be in Bass Lake, although it can only be confirmed as a rumour.