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Posted 23 August 2011 - 10:47 PM

So I finally did it, I went to Academy and bought a seine net. It's a 15' x 4'. I have next to no experience seining, and I haven't purchased dowels or whatever I need to help manipulate this net.

Anyone have any suggestions or tips on its usage? I won't likely be doing much seining alone, I'll always have someone with me, but soloing isn't out of the question.
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Posted 24 August 2011 - 06:49 AM

From my AC article, Unmack, P.J. 2004. Seining downstream and other tips. American Currents. 29(4): 11-12.

http://peter.unmack....04.seine.ac.pdf

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:50 PM

Bought two $6 rakes at a home improvement store, decapitated 'em, and they made a nice pair of fiberglass brails.

Also bought a bunch of fishing tackle type lead weights, to keep the bottom edge down. Never got around to putting them on the seine. Then one day a I got a length of light chain, and zip-tied it in place in about two minutes.

I will defer to a real seine-meister on fish-catching techniques.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 10:13 PM

The chain can be a help in really strong currents. I gave up using a chain some years ago just because it makes the net harder to pull up anything like quickly. And I think we could have an interesting thread just talking about different brails people have used, or thought they could use.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:30 PM

Bought two $6 rakes at a home improvement store, decapitated 'em, and they made a nice pair of fiberglass brails.

Also bought a bunch of fishing tackle type lead weights, to keep the bottom edge down. Never got around to putting them on the seine. Then one day a I got a length of light chain, and zip-tied it in place in about two minutes.

I will defer to a real seine-meister on fish-catching techniques.


The chain thing sounds like a good simple solution to lack of weight on the bottom.

As far as the handles go, I've seen single long handles on each end of the nets, but I've also seen a video that involved 2 short handles on each side of the net. I'm assuming this lets them fold the net up onto itself when raising it out of the water, but I haven't a clue really.




I'm reading that article that was linked, much appreciated.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 12:08 AM

As far as the handles go, I've seen single long handles on each end of the nets, but I've also seen a video that involved 2 short handles on each side of the net. I'm assuming this lets them fold the net up onto itself when raising it out of the water, but I haven't a clue really.


I haven't seen one rigged like that.

But I HAVE been seining a number of times & places where a sturdy seine brail made the tripod that kept me from being washed out to sea. A seine is an underwater sail, a fact we quickly forget but are reminded of every time we try to work in a stiff current.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 12:09 AM

The chain can be a help in really strong currents. I gave up using a chain some years ago just because it makes the net harder to pull up anything like quickly.

LIGHT chain. Pick a chain you think would be good, then put it back on the shelf, and get one 1/2 the weight.

Of course, there are those who think that anyone who owns four screwdrivers and one seine has it backwards.

Edited by Doug_Dame, 25 August 2011 - 12:12 AM.


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Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:10 AM

You can put chains on your seines. You could also probably string Christmas lights on it to make night seining easier, run off of a 12V battery. Might need to tow a pool float behind you with your cooler and the battery. Maybe even a hydraulic arm to lift the seine.

...or you could just get a seine that is properly weighted in the first place.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 07:04 AM

In the past couple of year I began using chain on my nets (thanks to seeing some work from our resident Netmaker). I found that #6 no-kink machine chain works very well for my nets. This chain will slip between tiny crevices yet not really add terribly to the weight of the nets. This is unusual chain so I guess I should photo how I'm using it and weight per foot. Everyone who has used the net over the past two years agrees it reduces time positioning lead line in riffles (nearly eliminates the need to bend over while placing net) and I've never had problems in heavy vegetation.

Oh yeah....Dave you smarty pants :tongue:

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:24 PM

My question is on pronounciation. Is it "seen" or "sain"?

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 12:45 PM

Of those two options, "sain", with a long "a" sound.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:58 PM

or more like "in-sane"
Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing. - Benjamin Franklin

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 11:53 PM

Seining technique depends heavily on your desires.
Which fish you want?
Sampling or trying to catch many?
Your seining partner and helpers.

I have learned many things from fellow collectors. Often, the techniques go against what I had hear never to do; seine going downstream, hold the net up off the bottom, let the current drag the net, even stand on shore.

When you have a desired fish and site to fish, come back for specifics.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:28 PM

Of those two options, "sain", with a long "a" sound.

Thats what I thought. Just doesn't seem right though...

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:40 PM

Thats what I thought. Just doesn't seem right though...

Seine as in vein when you do seine hopefully it won't be in vain.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:56 PM

Nice Mike. You're a poet and you didn't even know it....
On a more serious note, since you're in Schenectady, have you heard of the organization Scenic Hudson? My brother-in-law is the activities director or some such nonsense for them. Great programs and stuff going on up there.



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