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Native that Looks like a Crypt?


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:27 PM

I frequently see a plant out in the Mississippi that looks like one of the Cryptocryenes. I checked MN and WI native plant lists and neither returned anything close. So, any ideas?

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:36 PM

? Curly leaf pond weed? Water smartweed/knotweed?

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:17 PM

Can you take a picture of it the next time you see it? Try to zoom in on how its leaves branch out from the main stem.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:11 AM

Curly dock?

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:16 AM

Curly dock?


Oh, that's a good guess from the limited info we have.

Is it below or above the low water line?

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 07:56 PM

It grew underwater. I always thought it was a runner type plant, but I guess that maybe it could be a stem plant with roots popping out along the stem. Maybe it is the Curly Pondweed. I really would like a plant similar to Crypts, but native.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:07 PM

Echinodorus tenellus is native. There are native rosette plants.

Here is a website that has native plants listed.
http://plants.usda.gov/adv_search.html

Try sorting it to your state and then checking out the family names that are wetland. For example Potamogeton, Ludwigia, Myriophyllum, Najas, etc. Using your browser to find the word 'aquaticum' or 'aqua' would find key species fast.
Neobecki aquaticum is neat looking, and it's a rosette plant. http://www.aquapage....s.php?detail=25
Eriocaulon aquaticum is downright adorable. http://www.aquaticpl...um-not-new.html
Limosella aquatica is a rosette, but it looks like squid hands that are going to pummel you. http://www.em.ca/gar...a-aquatica.html

Anyway, so, yeah, there are a LOT of plants. If you took a picture of the one you see it would give you something to compare to the species photos. I'd help, too.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 12:35 PM

Curly dock (Rumex crispus) is NOT considered aquatic but seeds will germinate on exposed mud during a drought, then when the water level comes back up it can survive longer than many other non-aquatic plants, so it looks like an aquatic. But I dont think it will do well kept permanently submerged. I cant think of any other native aquatic that looks Crypt-like, except maybe Alisma and some of the semi-aquatic buttercups. Some pondweeds (Potamogeton) have Crypt-like leaves but they're on a long stem, not a basal rosette of leaves like Crypts.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:47 PM

Sometimes broad leaved pondweeds will look like cryps when starting out, as Gerald said. He's also right about the curly dock - not aquatic, but it's often a shoreline plant whose seeds may germinate underwater but not be able to tolerate submersed conditions long term. An observation: kentucky bluegrass (the most common lawn grass here) falls in this category too, I see sprouted seeds underwater in the local creek all the time which eventually wither away (as opposed to the hairgrasses which regrow year after year and thrive). Anyways, there's little point grasping at straws here, is it possible for you to take a picture of the described plant Yeahson?

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 07:23 PM

It's too late in the season now, I'll have to wait until spring.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 07:35 PM

If it is Eriocaulon aquaticum, grow it, split it, and post it on the trading dock. Knowing myself, future me will probably offer you something in trade for some.




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