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#21 predatorkeeper87

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 06:54 AM

 I was also thinking pike would be cool, or maybe walleye, but neither are native to Maine.

you have northern pike in Maine, they were introduced to your state but they are there.  What you do have in regards to native Esox species is chain pickerel, which is essentially a miniature version of the northern pike.



#22 Sean Phillips

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:21 AM

At first I thought it was an American Eel, but upon further research on the Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife website I found out it was a cusk (that or the picture was similar but different) but I do know that a lot of people ice fish for cusk

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One sure fire way to tell. What's the scientific name?

Burbot: Lota lota
Cusk: Brosme brosme
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#23 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:22 AM

I do know about chain pickerel and pike, when I was younger the first pickerel I caught I thought was a pike! lol. I do think it would be cool to keep a pike, but I'd rather a pickerel because they are native. If I do end up going to the pike/muskie area of keeping fish, I would choose a tiger muskie if anything. The only reason being they are a gorgeous fish! And I believe you are correct that they are burbot. I was actually just on another forum and I found this "Cusk also called Burbot or Ling are like a freshwater cod." So I wonder if maybe people just adopted cusk because its basically a freshwater version of it? Or maybe its actually classified as a freshwater variation as well as a burbot



#24 predatorkeeper87

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:23 AM

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One sure fire way to tell. What's the scientific name?

Burbot: Lota lota
Cusk: Brosme brosme

right but they don't have the species listed, just listed as "Cusk" but then under "other names" they have burbot, lawyerfish and freshwater cod.  The picture is of a burbot on their site, which it has to be, since cusk are deepwater marine dwellers lol.


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#25 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:24 AM

.

One sure fire way to tell. What's the scientific name?

Burbot: Lota lota
Cusk: Brosme brosme

Check this out: http://www.maine.gov...cation/cusk.htm It lists it as both with the scientific name of "lota lota"



#26 Sean Phillips

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:25 AM

you have northern pike in Maine, they were introduced to your state but they are there.  What you do have in regards to native Esox species is chain pickerel, which is essentially a miniature version of the northern pike.


Regardless, he'd need a massive tank for either. Say 480g+ for Walleye and 1,000g+ for northern pike. Chain pickerel are a better candidate and grass or redfin pickerel an even better one. Sander species just tend to do poorly in captive aquaria as well.
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#27 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:25 AM

Yea, I think they just call it that because it looks similar, either way I now know their Burbot and shall refer to them as so! 



#28 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:26 AM

I assumed Id need a large tank, so I didn't plan on heading in that direction for a long time until I can acquire such large tanks. 



#29 predatorkeeper87

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:29 AM

I do know about chain pickerel and pike, when I was younger the first pickerel I caught I thought was a pike! lol. I do think it would be cool to keep a pike, but I'd rather a pickerel because they are native. If I do end up going to the pike/muskie area of keeping fish, I would choose a tiger muskie if anything. The only reason being they are a gorgeous fish! And I believe you are correct that they are burbot. I was actually just on another forum and I found this "Cusk also called Burbot or Ling are like a freshwater cod." So I wonder if maybe people just adopted cusk because its basically a freshwater version of it? Or maybe its actually classified as a freshwater variation as well as a burbot

Pickerel are amazing fish. I had redfin pickerel, best fish I've ever kept.  you go either pike or muskie or the hybrid route, you'll need a lake lol. 

 

Yes it would seem to me the similarities between the two fish have caused the names to become interchangeable.



#30 predatorkeeper87

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:31 AM

 Chain pickerel are a better candidate and grass or redfin pickerel an even better one. Sander species just tend to do poorly in captive aquaria as well.

loved my redfins...finally lost my last one to some god-awful black plague of the fish world. 

 

Ya...tried my hand at walleye, I can keep any fish alive lol but those guys...were not easy fish to keep. 



#31 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:33 AM

Summers ago when I was something like 12 I caught a baby pickerel in a pond near my house and kept him in an old 20 gallon we had laying around. It was pretty interesting because he really didn't seem that hard to take care of. I think I had him for most of the summer feeding him creek chub I was catching out of a small stream. 



#32 predatorkeeper87

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:36 AM

Summers ago when I was something like 12 I caught a baby pickerel in a pond near my house and kept him in an old 20 gallon we had laying around. It was pretty interesting because he really didn't seem that hard to take care of. I think I had him for most of the summer feeding him creek chub I was catching out of a small stream. 

super easy fish.  Just keep the water quality good and they basically just hover in the water all day waiting for anything live to swim by lol



#33 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:41 AM

Lol, I can't remember what happened to that fish. I want to catch another baby one. I went back to that lake/river area the other day and I was reeling in from a cast and 2 pickerel attacked my bobber. After that they wouldn't bite my crank bait. Red crank baits seem to do very well on pickerel and bass, I catch all kinds of pickerel on the one I have


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#34 predatorkeeper87

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 08:13 AM

Lol, I can't remember what happened to that fish. I want to catch another baby one. I went back to that lake/river area the other day and I was reeling in from a cast and 2 pickerel attacked my bobber. After that they wouldn't bite my crank bait. Red crank baits seem to do very well on pickerel and bass, I catch all kinds of pickerel on the one I have

I wish I had pickerel native to were I'm at, I love the esox species in general but pickerel would be awesome to fish for.



#35 Cu455

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 08:19 AM

Your fish might be dying because of nitrate shock. Do a water change before adding fish. The oxygen level might be low in your tank too. What kind of filtration do you have?



#36 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 08:59 AM

I wish I had pickerel native to were I'm at, I love the esox species in general but pickerel would be awesome to fish for.

I love pickerel fishing, I pulled a 17 inch one out of a tiny puddle of a pond at a barn my girlfriend rides at and it was sitting like a foot in front of me. I tried all kinds of different bait then I ran that red crank bait by him and he pegged it lol


Edited by Crazyblade1209, 13 May 2015 - 09:00 AM.


#37 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 09:00 AM

Your fish might be dying because of nitrate shock. Do a water change before adding fish. The oxygen level might be low in your tank too. What kind of filtration do you have?

It was a brand new tank with brand new water with a 20 gallon filter (one that hangs over the side) in, I have a long bubbler in it along with the surface movement the filter makes



#38 Crazyblade1209

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 09:17 AM

Any of you try keeping brook trout? I was interested in keeping one or two because their a nice looking fish and readily available in my area.



#39 predatorkeeper87

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 09:54 AM

Any of you try keeping brook trout? I was interested in keeping one or two because their a nice looking fish and readily available in my area.

You wont be able to.  they need cold water, preferably high flow, and are one of the most sensitive fish ever.

 

Sean will chime in any second now haha, #1 brookie fanclub president there hahaha.


Edited by predatorkeeper87, 13 May 2015 - 09:57 AM.


#40 Sean Phillips

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 12:08 PM

I wish I had pickerel native to were I'm at, I love the esox species in general but pickerel would be awesome to fish for.


I told you where they're at lol. I'll be sure to grab you one and a bowfin if I can find a small one this weekend when I go up there.
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