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Posted 14 March 2009 - 10:52 AM

i got a seine a little while ago but i know nothing about it.

with the weather warming up i want to know how to use it.

its a 4x8' seine, and 5 foot sections of 1" PVC pipe as the handles.

so are there any techniques i should know when i go to use my seine?

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:56 AM

i got a seine a little while ago but i know nothing about it.

with the weather warming up i want to know how to use it.

its a 4x8' seine, and 5 foot sections of 1" PVC pipe as the handles.

so are there any techniques i should know when i go to use my seine?

find 2 friends and get the net wet.
place it just below a riffle and have a pall walk to you kicking the rocks and sand around thats it.
have fun.
you may need to change the 1"pvc it may be to limp

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 12:11 PM

would it be practical to use a seine in a pond? because there aren't really a lot of big streams around here.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 12:15 PM

would it be practical to use a seine in a pond? because there aren't really a lot of big streams around here.

sure

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 12:19 PM

just try

Edited by CATfishTONY, 14 March 2009 - 12:24 PM.


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Posted 14 March 2009 - 03:20 PM

would it be practical to use a seine in a pond? because there aren't really a lot of big streams around here.



I really avoid big streams at this time of year. If you can, seek the smaller stream especially when starting out. You can easily learn what fish live where and more completely sample all types of structure.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 03:43 PM

Arent there any restrictions on seining, other than a valid fishing license??

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 03:53 PM

Arent there any restrictions on seining, other than a valid fishing license??


Sure there are... and they vary greatly from state to state... seine length... seine mesh size... where you can seine (some streams down here are designated no seine trout streams... or maybe what time of year you can seine... and of course what fish can be kept... look at your fishing regulations, they usually have something about seining for "bait fish" (again, these are defined differently in each state)... you want to know what you can keep and what you have to put back... but even what you put back can be quickly photo'd...
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 04:56 PM

Try something like wooden broom handles, or heavy dowels, as brails (handles) on the net. The trick with all seining is to keep the bottom lead line as close to the bottom as possible, because fish will escape by swimming under the net except for athletic species like bass which you don't want to net anyway.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 05:16 PM

would it be practical to use a seine in a pond? because there aren't really a lot of big streams around here.


If you can get about 3-5 friends along with you a seine can be quite effective in a pond. Wade out single file to about 3.5 feet, then spread out the seine. Angle it so that the bottom is forward. Have the extra friends (those not holding the seine) off to the side and a little in front of the seine. Then run it in towards shore as fast as you can while keeping the bottom of the seine against the bottom of the pond (it won't be very fast :biggrin: ). The non-seine holders can help to keep the fish grouped in front of the seine instead of swimming off to the side. A sandy bottom works best. Large rocks, logs sticks and such either get caught in the seine or provide gaps as you pass it over them that the fish will escape through.
I would second changing out the PVC. I doubt it would hold up to this kind of treatment. You will be amazed at how much pressure is generated by dragging a seine through the water.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 05:50 PM

i have a feeling this seine isn't going to see much action because it seems like it will be difficult to use around here (there are no hard bottoms, all silt, very difficult to walk in) and i only have one friend that would be willing to go seining with me.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 06:04 PM

i have a feeling this seine isn't going to see much action because it seems like it will be difficult to use around here (there are no hard bottoms, all silt, very difficult to walk in) and i only have one friend that would be willing to go seining with me.

sounds like you need a one man net.

http://www.memphisne...egory/nets_cast

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 06:26 PM

Dave,

You might be better off with a good deep dipnet for your areas. You could use a 4' wide seine by yourself but most of the places by you are full of so much detritus, muck, silt, and wood you'd just ruin it.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 02:29 PM

Dave,

You might be better off with a good deep dipnet for your areas. You could use a 4' wide seine by yourself but most of the places by you are full of so much detritus, muck, silt, and wood you'd just ruin it.


i was starting to think the same thing.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 08:13 PM

I replaced the netting of a Big Fish Landing net with an old seine net that I had. The old landing net was used to catch a raccoon, it tore up the net according to the guy that gave it to me. The landing net is about 2 feet in diameter, with a aluminum pole handle. It was pretty easy to make compared to the casting net that I just made.

The problem with it was that the seine net was old, so it got holes in it after catching a few rocks :mrgreen: You might want to use something stronger on the inside in case of snags or rocks.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:01 AM

Nets are for catching fish; so the nets get holes.

To fix any hole:
Loop a piece of dental floss and tie a regular knot. Cut off the excess on both ends, saving one piece for the next knot. Repeat many times.

Edited by PhilipKukulski, 21 March 2009 - 09:03 AM.


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Posted 22 March 2009 - 12:51 AM

I would do that, but the net is so brittle (it's 10 years old). I'm going to just buy another seine net and use it. I use 10 lbs. test line to sew up nets, I also got 30 lbs. test for attaching it to the net loop.

I used 50 lbs. test line for my casting net, in my topic. For the inside line that pulls it shut. I use 10 lbs. test to sew it, and 30 lbs. test for adding extra sinkers to it. I had to add weight to it because a seine net sinks a little slower than a normal casting net.

Never thought of using dental floss, why would you use that instead of regular fishing line? Sorry to get off subject...



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