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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:41 AM

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:43 AM

here is what can be caught in VA

Scientific Name Common Name Occurrence Status
Phoxinus oreas Mountain Redbelly Dace Current
Clinostomus funduloides Rosyside Dace Current
Rhinichthys cataractae Longnose Dace Current
Rhinichthys atratulus Blacknose Dace Current
Campostoma anomalum Central Stoneroller Current
Semotilus atromaculatus Creek Chub Current
Exoglossum laurae Tonguetied Minnow Current
Anguilla rostrata American Eel Current
Nocomis platyrhynchus Bigmouth Chub Current
Nocomis leptocephalus Bluehead Chub Current
Cyprinella spiloptera Spotfin Shiner Current
Luxilus albeolus White Shiner Current
Notropis rubellus Rosyface Shiner Current
Notropis photogenis Silver Shiner Current
Notropis scabriceps New River Shiner Current
Notropis volucellus Mimic Shiner Current
Pimephales notatus Bluntnose Minnow Current
Hypentelium nigricans Northern Hog Sucker Current
Thoburnia rhothoeca Torrent Sucker Current
Catostomus commersoni White Sucker Current
Ictalurus punctatus Channel Catfish Current
Noturus insignis Margined Madtom Current
Pylodictis olivaris Flathead Catfish Current
Salvelinus fontinalis Brook Trout Current
Cottus bairdi Mottled Sculpin Current
Cottus carolinae Banded Sculpin Current
Lepomis cyanellus Green Sunfish Current
Percina oxyrhynchus Sharpnose Darter Current
Percina caprodes Logperch Current
Etheostoma blennioides Greenside Darter Current
Etheostoma nigrum Johnny Darter Current
Etheostoma flabellare Fantail Darter Current
Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner Current
Notropis leuciodus Tennessee Shiner Current
Notropis rubricroceus Saffron Shiner Current
Luxilus coccogenis Warpaint Shiner Current
Ambloplites rupestris Rock Bass Current
Micropterus salmoides Largemouth Bass Current
Etheostoma olmstedi Tessellated Darter Current
Phenacobius teretulus Kanawha Minnow Current
Lythrurus ardens Blueside Shiner Current
Etheostoma kanawhae Kanawha Darter Current
Percina gymnocephala Appalachia Darter Current
Etheostoma osburni Candy Darter Current



Scientific Name Common Name Occurrence Status
Esox niger Chain Pickerel Current
Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner Current
Phoxinus oreas Mountain Redbelly Dace Current
Clinostomus funduloides Rosyside Dace Current
Rhinichthys cataractae Longnose Dace Current
Rhinichthys atratulus Blacknose Dace Current
Campostoma anomalum Central Stoneroller Current
Semotilus atromaculatus Creek Chub Current
Exoglossum maxillingua Cutlips Minnow Current
Anguilla rostrata American Eel Current
Dorosoma cepedianum Gizzard Shad Current
Nocomis raneyi Bull Chub Current
Nocomis leptocephalus Bluehead Chub Current
Cyprinella analostana Satinfin Shiner Current
Cyprinella spiloptera Spotfin Shiner Current
Luxilus cerasinus Crescent Shiner Current
Luxilus albeolus White Shiner Current
Notropis amoenus Comely Shiner Current
Notropis hudsonius Spottail Shiner Current
Notropis volucellus Mimic Shiner Current
Notropis procne Swallowtail Shiner Current
Carpiodes cyprinus Quillback Current
Hypentelium nigricans Northern Hog Sucker Current
Thoburnia rhothoeca Torrent Sucker Current
Scartomyzon cervinus Black Jumprock Current
Moxostoma macrolepidotum Shorthead Redhorse Current
Moxostoma erythrurum Golden Redhorse Current
Moxostoma collapsum V-lip Redhorse Current
Moxostoma pappillosum Slender Redhorse Current
Catostomus commersoni White Sucker Current
Ameiurus catus White Catfish Current
Ameiurus platycephalus Flat Bullhead Current
Ameiurus natalis Yellow Bullhead Current
Ameiurus nebulosus Brown Bullhead Current
Noturus insignis Margined Madtom Current
Salvelinus fontinalis Brook Trout Current
Cottus caeruleomentum Blue Ridge Sculpin Current
Morone saxatilis Striped Bass Current
Pomoxis nigromaculatus Black Crappie Current
Lepomis auritus Redbreast Sunfish Current
Lepomis gibbosus Pumpkinseed Current
Percina nevisense Chainback Darter Current
Percina roanoka Roanoke Darter Current
Etheostoma nigrum Johnny Darter Current
Etheostoma vitreum Glassy Darter Current
Etheostoma flabellare Fantail Darter Current
Lythrurus ardens Blueside Shiner Current
Hypentelium roanokense Roanoke Hog Sucker Current
Thoburnia hamiltoni Rustyside Sucker Current
Scartomyzon ariommus Bigeye Jumprock Current
Ambloplites cavifrons Roanoke Bass Current
Noturus gilberti Orangefin Madtom Current
Etheostoma podostemone Riverweed Darter Current
Percina rex Roanoke Logperch Current
Alosa sapidissima American Shad Historical


Scientific Name Common Name Occurrence Status
Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner Current
Phoxinus oreas Mountain Redbelly Dace Current
Clinostomus funduloides Rosyside Dace Current
Rhinichthys cataractae Longnose Dace Current
Rhinichthys atratulus Blacknose Dace Current
Campostoma anomalum Central Stoneroller Current
Semotilus corporalis Fallfish Current
Semotilus atromaculatus Creek Chub Current
Exoglossum maxillingua Cutlips Minnow Current
Nocomis micropogon River Chub Current
Lepisosteus osseus Longnose Gar Current
Esox niger Chain Pickerel Current
Nocomis raneyi Bull Chub Current
Nocomis leptocephalus Bluehead Chub Current
Cyprinella analostana Satinfin Shiner Current
Luxilus cornutus Common Shiner Current
Notropis rubellus Rosyface Shiner Current
Notropis amoenus Comely Shiner Current
Notropis hudsonius Spottail Shiner Current
Notropis volucellus Mimic Shiner Current
Notropis procne Swallowtail Shiner Current
Hybognathus regius Eastern Silvery Minnow Current
Carpiodes cyprinus Quillback Current
Erimyzon oblongus Creek Chubsucker Current
Hypentelium nigricans Northern Hog Sucker Current
Thoburnia rhothoeca Torrent Sucker Current
Moxostoma macrolepidotum Shorthead Redhorse Current
Moxostoma erythrurum Golden Redhorse Current
Catostomus commersoni White Sucker Current
Ameiurus catus White Catfish Current
Ameiurus platycephalus Flat Bullhead Current
Ameiurus natalis Yellow Bullhead Current
Ameiurus nebulosus Brown Bullhead Current
Noturus insignis Margined Madtom Current
Salvelinus fontinalis Brook Trout Current
Fundulus diaphanus Banded Killifish Current
Cottus caeruleomentum Blue Ridge Sculpin Current
Cottus girardi Potomac Sculpin Current
Pomoxis nigromaculatus Black Crappie Current
Lepomis auritus Redbreast Sunfish Current
Lepomis gibbosus Pumpkinseed Current
Percina notogramma Stripeback Darter Current
Percina peltata Shield Darter Current
Etheostoma longimanum Longfin Darter Current
Etheostoma nigrum Johnny Darter Current
Etheostoma flabellare Fantail Darter Current
Notropis semperasper Roughhead Shiner Current
Lythrurus ardens Blueside Shiner Current
Noturus gilberti Orangefin Madtom Current
Alosa sapidissima American Shad Historical



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Posted 29 August 2009 - 12:37 PM

oh my god, thoase are in virginia? those are some lovely and colorfuil fish. you sold me on it.

I still want to map the fish in my local streams though.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 12:56 PM

So what day is good for you? Could u leave friday night? Do your parents have a truck that could fit us all? Cuz right now all we have is a 2 door eclipse that I have or ur car?

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 09:12 PM

So what day is good for you? Could u leave friday night? Do your parents have a truck that could fit us all? Cuz right now all we have is a 2 door eclipse that I have or ur car?


I doubt i could take off friday night, only 5 people are allowed off at once and the time before the holidays gets booked fast. As for a big truck I can borrow, I doubt that would happen (I can't drive standard and do not want to pile in the back of a pick up).

I did however take the week of the 14th off.

Oh, what was that awesome looking red and yellow fish you had in your first pic?

Edited by FirstChAoS, 29 August 2009 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 29 August 2009 - 09:35 PM

Well we could leave on saturday then. Its only 1 night we r gone. A truck isn't a standard or a pickup lol. I was thinking an SUV. This is the only week I can go. I am savin all my vacation for december when my daughter is born

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 03:29 PM

alright so josh from NH is going...mike from NY is going and bumpy from mass is going. only problem we seem to have is a vehicle that cant withstand all of us. we need someone willing to drive. and we all split gas :( i hope it doesnt come down to we cant go cuz a car :( so who else wants to go?

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 04:00 PM

why dont you see how much it costs to rent a van?

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 05:05 PM

why dont you see how much it costs to rent a van?

That's not a bad idea. But how much would mileage cost for almost 1600 miles haha. I can only imagine.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 05:41 PM

Hey, if you are after specific species, I may be able to help you find some of them if you would like to PM me. I don't know the SW part of Virginia very well, but if you let me know what you're looking for I may be able to help out. Up here around Fredericksburg and the surrounding areas though...I can definitely help you out if you'd like to hit the area on your way home.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:03 PM

awesome man. i know we all def want mountain red belly dace. every darter possible...saffron, crecent shiners....im sure others want other things as well. what can you regularly get?

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:21 PM

Saffron shiners are usually found at fairly high elevation, in first or second order streams. For pointers for locations you should look at the Fishes of Virginia or Tennessee books. This habitat preference is described at NatureServe as "Cool, clear, small, high-gradient headwaters and creeks with gravel-rubble bottom; restricted to upland and montane situations probably more than any other Notropis." But once you get to the right habitat they're often common.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 07:12 PM

thanks bruce. i mainly want mountain red bellies. im pretty excited to see some of these species. i love traveling as well so it will be nice to enjoy nature as well..

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 07:42 PM

If you are after Saffrons, be careful that you aren't getting into any trout water trying to find them. We thought about popping over west to grab some during the Roanoke/Dan trip, but finding them in fishable water was a concern.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 07:44 PM

yeah mike (keepnatives) has been down there so he said he knows the rivers that we need to hit up...dont wanna stumble upon dumb trout...im sick of the government trying to protect trout. PROTECT MY DARTERS!!! are you gonna be able to come to southwestern virginia at all? i said in the other thread that i am mostly lookin for every species of darter im able to collect...and warpaint, MRBD, and maybe some saffron or crescent shiners.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 07:55 PM

I would love to come but unfortunately I have no means of transportation right now other than my very own two feet. I did get into some of that area for the first time in July though, and do intend on going back as soon as I get a chance. If you guys happen to be passing close to Fredericksburg on the way home, would I be out of line to ask if you could grab a few extra fish for me? If not it's no big deal either though. Also, if you guys are at all interested in Greenside or Rainbow darters, I have a spot in northern VA that will yield both.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:57 AM

I would love to come but unfortunately I have no means of transportation right now other than my very own two feet. I did get into some of that area for the first time in July though, and do intend on going back as soon as I get a chance. If you guys happen to be passing close to Fredericksburg on the way home, would I be out of line to ask if you could grab a few extra fish for me? If not it's no big deal either though. Also, if you guys are at all interested in Greenside or Rainbow darters, I have a spot in northern VA that will yield both.

im sure if you are on our route we could swing some fish by you....maybe for payment you can let us crash at your house hahah. what fish are you lookin for....can you tell me what fish are going to be very common where we are headed?



also i looked up on priceline what an SUV would run us...came out to be like 240 bucks...but thats cuz i had to keep it for an extra day (fri) and to monday. but if we were to get the SUV in New York it would save us 1 day and possible be able to deliver it back on sunday...which would be 2 days instea on 4 days...so thats something to look at out your way mike.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 12:21 PM

if people would be so kind to post some rivers and what we could find there. that would help out a lot. we are all researching but obv its nice to have direct knowledge so we arent looking for hours and wasting our only day that we have. we would all be very appreciative of that.

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 07:47 PM

I live in Essex (Baltimore County) Maryland. Not too many darters around here except tessilated. Looking for more colorful species. I have zero experience and would love to go with some experienced members. I would need a few weeks notice to get out of work and can not go towards the final days of the month. Would also need to be schooled on fishing licenses out of state etc. if we left the maryland area. Total newb but super excited and motivated. Like I said just need notice, a list of what to bring, and patience from whoever I am with on the trip.

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:55 AM

you can make it...just do it!!!! you wont regret it!



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