Official 2013 Kentucky after convention discussion

Right Casper, we had a handicap. One single drainage. Guess we could have worked harder, and hit some sunfish/black bass habitat. Then we would have taken them too school. Next year it is on. I am going to start soliciting trip members now. Team with the most fish wins! Ready Fritz?

I have an Ace in the Hole for Linville Falls. Little Eddie will be on our team. Seems like i recall him doing a Blue Ridge Parkway survey a couple years ago.

No other teams stand a chance.

Im glad to see you all had fun! I look forward to seeing a species list.

I believe Josh has had all the info forwarded to him, and will have lists up as soon as he can.

Species list and relative abundances from the Kentucky drainage trip.





5 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
30 Chrosomus erythrogaster North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
5 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
50 Semotilus atromaculatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
3 Catostomus commersonii North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
12 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
12 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
20 15 0 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 15(w) DNA Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
7 Etheostoma spilotum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
2 Percina stictogaster North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
5 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Cyprinella spiloptera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
4 Hybopsis amblops North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
2 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
30 Notropis rubellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
30 Notropis volucellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
10 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
8 Hypentelium nigricans North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma breviceps North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
3 Moxostoma carinatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
2 Moxostoma erythrurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Labidesthes sicculus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
2 Lepomis cyanellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis megalotis megalotis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Ammocrypta pellucida North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma blennioides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma camurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
12 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
15 11 0 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 11(w) DNA Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
25 Etheostoma variatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
12 Etheostoma zonale North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Percina caprodes North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
12 9 2 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 7(w) DNA Percina copelandi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Percina maculatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
3 Cyprinella spiloptera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
2 Cyprinella whipplei North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Erimystax dissimilis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Hybopsis amblops North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
3 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Nocomis micropogon North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Notropis photogenis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
4 Notropis rubellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
50 Notropis volucellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
12 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma breviceps North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma erythrurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
2 Noturus miurus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis cyanellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Micropterus dolomieu North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
20 Ammocrypta pellucida North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
2 Etheostoma baileyi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma camurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
15 Percina caprodes North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
35 Percina copelandi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Percina sciera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
30 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
5 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
10 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
20 Semotilus atromaculatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
1 Hypentelium nigricans North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
8 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
15 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
7 7 0 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 7(w) DNA Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
1 Etheostoma spilotum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
2 1 1 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 1(fc) DNA Ichthyomyzon bdellium North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
20 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
3 Cyprinella spiloptera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Erimystax dissimilis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
4 Hybopsis amblops North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
5 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Notropis atherinoides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
4 Notropis buccata North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
10 Notropis photogenis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
20 Notropis rubellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
20 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Hypentelium nigricans North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma erythrurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Noturus flavus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Ambloplites rupestris North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis cyanellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis megalotis megalotis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Micropterus dolomieu North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
10 Etheostoma blennioides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
15 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
15 Etheostoma camurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
40 Etheostoma variatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
8 Etheostoma zonale North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
3 Percina caprodes North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Percina copelandi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Percina evides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Percina maculatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
8 Percina sciera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River

Green river trip, and A bit of the Cumberland drainage as well.

KY: Green Co. Russell Creek, Russell Creek Road, East of Bramlett
Largescale stoneroller
Scarlet shiner
Striped shiner
Bigeye chub
Mimic shiner
Silver shiner
Streamline chub
Bluntnose minnow
Northern hog sucker
Elegant madtom
Brindled madtom
Rock bass
Bluegill
Longear sunfish
Smallmouth bass
Greenside darter
Rainbow darter
Orangefin darter
Bluebreast darter
Spotted darter
Bluegrass darter
Kentucky darter
Banded darter
Logperch
Longhead darter
Banded Sculpin

KY: Pulaski Co. Buck Creek, at canoe launch on Rainey Rd (SR 1677), NE of Shopville
Longnose gar
Largescale stoneroller
Whitetail shiner
Scarlet shiner
Silverjaw minnow
Bigeye shiner
Telescope shiner
Bluntnose minnow
Blacknose dace
Creek chub
Northern hog sucker
Golden redhorse
Northern studfish
Brook silverside
Rock bass
Bluegill
Longear sunfish
Smallmouth bass
Largemouth bass
Bluebreast darter
Rainbow darter
Bloodfin darter
“Cumberland” darter

KY: Pulaski Co. Brush Creek, Smith Hollow Rd, off SR 3268, NE of Somersett
Largescale stoneroller
Southern redbelly dace
Creek chub
Green sunfish
Fantail darter
Headwater darter

Species list and relative abundances from the Kentucky drainage trip.





5 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
30 Chrosomus erythrogaster North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
5 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
50 Semotilus atromaculatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
3 Catostomus commersonii North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
12 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
12 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
20 15 0 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 15(w) DNA Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
7 Etheostoma spilotum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
2 Percina stictogaster North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay Big Double Creek
5 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Cyprinella spiloptera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
4 Hybopsis amblops North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
2 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
30 Notropis rubellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
30 Notropis volucellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
10 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
8 Hypentelium nigricans North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma breviceps North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
3 Moxostoma carinatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
2 Moxostoma erythrurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Labidesthes sicculus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
2 Lepomis cyanellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis megalotis megalotis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Ammocrypta pellucida North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma blennioides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma camurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
12 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
15 11 0 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 11(w) DNA Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
25 Etheostoma variatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
12 Etheostoma zonale North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Percina caprodes North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
12 9 2 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 7(w) DNA Percina copelandi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
1 Percina maculatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Clay South Fork Kentucky River
5 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
3 Cyprinella spiloptera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
2 Cyprinella whipplei North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Erimystax dissimilis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Hybopsis amblops North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
3 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Nocomis micropogon North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Notropis photogenis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
4 Notropis rubellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
50 Notropis volucellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
12 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma breviceps North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma erythrurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
2 Noturus miurus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis cyanellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Micropterus dolomieu North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
20 Ammocrypta pellucida North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
2 Etheostoma baileyi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
1 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma camurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
15 Percina caprodes North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
35 Percina copelandi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
5 Percina sciera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley South Fork Kentucky River
30 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
5 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
10 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
20 Semotilus atromaculatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
1 Hypentelium nigricans North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
8 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
15 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
7 7 0 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 7(w) DNA Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
1 Etheostoma spilotum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Owsley Lower Buffalo Creek
2 1 1 Alch, 0 Skel, 0 C&S, 1(fc) DNA Ichthyomyzon bdellium North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
20 Campostoma anomalum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
3 Cyprinella spiloptera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Erimystax dissimilis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
4 Hybopsis amblops North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
5 Luxilus chrysocephalus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Notropis atherinoides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
4 Notropis buccata North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
10 Notropis photogenis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
20 Notropis rubellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
20 Pimephales notatus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Hypentelium nigricans North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Moxostoma erythrurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Noturus flavus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Ambloplites rupestris North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis cyanellus North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Lepomis megalotis megalotis North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Micropterus dolomieu North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
10 Etheostoma blennioides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
15 Etheostoma caeruleum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
15 Etheostoma camurum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
5 Etheostoma flabellare North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Etheostoma nigrum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
40 Etheostoma variatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
8 Etheostoma zonale North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
3 Percina caprodes North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
2 Percina copelandi North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Percina evides North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
1 Percina maculatum North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River
8 Percina sciera North America U.S.A. Kentucky Lee Middle Fork Kentucky River

Thanks for the list, Matt! Can't believe it's so large.

I loved the location, and hope more at at state resorts in the future. Very nice, and very affordable.

Edited by pylodictis, 11 May 2013 - 08:44 PM.

Right Casper, we had a handicap. One single drainage. Guess we could have worked harder, and hit some sunfish/black bass habitat. Then we would have taken them too school. Next year it is on. I am going to start soliciting trip members now. Team with the most fish wins! Ready Fritz?

My group had a handicap also - me!

You're on. We'll have to figure something out that is fair and not involve marathon collecting/driving.

Birders move over- fish folk are getting into the Big Day action, complete with smack talk! Is there going to be a gallery, or would I have to be on a team to witness the action?

Birders move over- fish folk are getting into the Big Day action, complete with smack talk! Is there going to be a gallery, or would I have to be on a team to witness the action?

At this point I'm thinking about everyone going to the same drainages the first two days to even the playing field. Details need to be ironed out so as to not lose sight of why we do this. And not lose some of our less dedicated folks to intensive and extensive dashes from creek to creek just to beat the Old Guy.

I am thinking two teams. All sites the same. Done in reverse order for each team. One team hits last site first, the other hits the first site first. 4 sites. 45 minutes of water time per site. Same number of people, and same number of seines. $10 entry fee per person, free T- shirts to winning team, and full bragging rights. All done in the same day so that water conditions are the same. If we run into each other at a site, it is a free for all, no holds barred, except no eye gouging, no fish hooking, and no below the belt punches. Others who choose not to be in the competition can go on regularly scheduled trips.

How do we choose teams? Only $10 per person? Want to go ahead and take my tshirt size??

Not sure Dustin. Since I am jumping into this, I say Fritz, and you. Gotta separate you two some how. Pick your teams. I am thinking an odd number per team. $10 dollars per person per team equals $20 per shirt, so no loss for NANFA. I would also gladly pick a team if you are not into it. Yeah, I am an Xl.

I am thinking two teams. All sites the same. Done in reverse order for each team. One team hits last site first, the other hits the first site first. 4 sites. 45 minutes of water time per site. Same number of people, and same number of seines. $10 entry fee per person, free T- shirts to winning team, and full bragging rights. All done in the same day so that water conditions are the same. If we run into each other at a site, it is a free for all, no holds barred, except no eye gouging, no fish hooking, and no below the belt punches. Others who choose not to be in the competition can go on regularly scheduled trips.

Sounds pretty rough. I hope nobody's packing shockers and quarter sticks of dynamite...

Not sure Dustin. Since I am jumping into this, I say Fritz, and you. Gotta separate you two some how. Pick your teams. I am thinking an odd number per team. $10 dollars per person per team equals $20 per shirt, so no loss for NANFA. I would also gladly pick a team if you are not into it. Yeah, I am an Xl.

Can't separate the two of us. I'm thinking Dustin and Uland with me as the handicap for starters on team 1. You and Josh with Casper as the handicap but he'll give you Ed Scott. And I promise not to use my shocker.

I also demand Brian Zimmerman.

I also demand Brian Zimmerman.

Well now, maybe the shocker is back on the table. Along with gill nets. ZMan is a ringer.

Keep this nonsense up and I'll bring a bag seine and borrow the boat shocker.

We know who can run a net. Binkley is on my side two. Maybe we should do northerners versus southerners.

"Keep this nonsense up and I'll bring a bag seine and borrow the boat shocker." I'll join you.