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#1 CL1992

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 08:05 PM

I am considering making my 300g tropical tank into a Pumpkinseed sunfish tank and had some questions.  I've read on here that people have kept sunfish with plecos with no problems, but how about hognose brochis?  Or is there a native scavenger that would be compatible? How many sunfish would be comfortable in this size tank?  How rough are the sunnies going to be on the plants?



#2 Sean Phillips

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 08:28 PM

The 125 that I'm soon setting up will most likely include 6 or so Lepomis, some creek chubs, a yellow bullhead, and a Gibbiceps (sailfin) pleco. So, yes, sunfish are compatible with plecos. But as far as native scavengers to go with sunfish and a pleco, any of the "common bullheads (yellows, browns, and blacks) as well as the Stonecat (N. flavus) would all be good candidates. They're all dirty fish (Stonecats being the "cleanest") but they're all great scavengers. Sounds like a very cool project as well, be sure to post updates!
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#3 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 09:38 PM

Not sure that I agree with bullheads being "dirty" or "scavengers".  They are efficient nocturnal predators that cruise around and sense their prey in the dark with those famous catfish whiskers.


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#4 CL1992

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 06:59 AM

But wouldn't Bullheads wreak havoc with my plants?  I'd like to keep this tank well planted.



#5 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 01:17 PM

But wouldn't Bullheads wreak havoc with my plants?  I'd like to keep this tank well planted.

 Not as much as sunfish, if the males try to spawn.

 

I also disagree about catfish being dirty. No more than other fish. In the wild they may be scavengers but in a tank, not so much.


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#6 Sean Phillips

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 05:44 PM

Bullheads are very much predators as well, but my big yellow is always sure to clean up all the left over shrimp pellets and algae wafers after lights out. Maybe it's just my experience, but I've had my bullhead puke some shrimp up a few times.
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#7 CL1992

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 09:05 AM

Would there be a problem keeping all females? I was thinking around 6-10 of them.

#8 shaft6977

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 10:26 AM

I wouldn't think there would be a problem, but females are usually smaller and pretty drab.

#9 Sean Phillips

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 10:33 AM

Would there be a problem keeping all females? I was thinking around 6-10 of them.


No. But they do fine in mixed sex groups as long as you maintain 1 male to 2-3 females. Males are much more colorful too.
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