Well, Wed evening's presentation on Hydrophlox shiners at the Metropolitan Area Killi Association was very well received and several attendees said they are definitely getting into natives. I left NJ heading to NC overnight under severe rain and about 3 am due in part to fatigue and part due to increased storm intensity pulled into a rest area as did the majority of the other travelers, for a couple hrs. rest. I've never experienced rain like this before, it seemed like someone was dumping 55 gallon drums of water on my car. Due to forecasted rain I decided to forego my ne NC search for mud sunfish for Brian, sorry Brian another day. I instead focused on getting to Gum Swamp Lake which turned out a good idea though some dark clouds, there was also some blue sky and I managed to find some fish. Blue spot, black banded, warmouth, young dollars? not really sure they were under an inch, are dollars found there? Tadpole mad toms, including several tiny ones barely 3/4 of an inch, darters, swamp I believe, in the lake not the creek outflow which was way to high and turbulent. Also some lined topminnows and gambusia. Could not find any banded pygmy sunfish which I exhausted myself in searching for nor sirens which I didn't work so hard at as I was just hoping to get a look at a couple. Found very few adult fish 1 warmouth, couple mad toms, 1 black banded sunfish everything else juveniles. Never used my seine just a dip net so that might be part of the reason. Looking for small ones anyway. No photos sorry light was not good. Made the trip north thru Greensboro to my hotel in Danville Virginia leaving a variety of potential ways home. But I'm getting old and my aching body and expected continued storms with flash flood warnings convinced me to get a good night's sleep and simply head home Friday. I was quite content with a few fish in fact of the six 8 gallon coolers I brought, only 3 had any fish in them and they were far from full. Lots of driving for little fishing but was glad I went.