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#21 taldridge0321

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:30 PM

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#22 taldridge0321

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:31 PM

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#23 taldridge0321

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:31 PM

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#24 taldridge0321

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:32 PM

And in the last stream in the very fastest currents, we caught a handful of nice Longnose Daces and tons of Stonerollers. Trip+_24_.JPG



#25 gerald

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:49 PM

Yes on whitetail and bigeye, and I think you got a mirror shiner too.  The pattern diversity among redline darters is pretty amazing. 

The small slender shiner i'm not sure: maybe silver, highland/rosyface, telescope, tennessee ?


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#26 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:13 PM

I think I got most of the darters... redline (females mostly), gilt, banded, greenside, seagreen... and I recognized the dace right away... but your minnows over that way always fool me.


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#27 taldridge0321

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:20 PM

Yes on whitetail and bigeye, and I think you got a mirror shiner too.  The pattern diversity among redline darters is pretty amazing. 

The small slender shiner i'm not sure: maybe silver, highland/rosyface, telescope, tennessee ?

That's good news on the Shiners and Chubs. We caught so many Darters and every one of them looked different after awhile.



#28 mattknepley

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:51 PM

Dang, those Gilts are sumpin else! Props to your sis for her catches, too.
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#29 taldridge0321

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 06:09 AM

Dang, those Gilts are sumpin else! Props to your sis for her catches, too.

Thanks Matt, she ended up with the biggest fish of all the species, all day long haha. She also got the Whitetail Shiner which we only ever found one.



#30 gerald

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 11:21 AM

Michael - the darters that look like Seagreens are Swannanoa darters.  No Seagreens in the French Broad (hopefully).


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#31 taldridge0321

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 03:57 PM

Gerald, how many Darter species have the red dots all over them? I thought those were all Redlines, but Swannanoa's have them as well.

Michael - the darters that look like Seagreens are Swannanoa darters.  No Seagreens in the French Broad (hopefully).



#32 gerald

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 04:10 PM

In NC:  Swannanoa, Redline, Riverweed, Wounded, sometimes Greenfin ... maybe others.  Probably lots of species with red or rusty spots in other states too.  The steep head profile and green anal fin of Swannanoa tells you its more related to Seagreen and Turq's than it is to Redline.


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#33 taldridge0321

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 04:20 PM

In NC:  Swannanoa, Redline, Riverweed, Wounded, sometimes Greenfin ... maybe others.  Probably lots of species with red or rusty spots in other states too.  The steep head profile and green anal fin of Swannanoa tells you its more related to Seagreen and Turq's than it is to Redline.

Interesting, I haven't got a Riverweed yet, next time I visit the Dan I guess. You said you saw Greenfin and Banded Darters correct? I am still trying to separate the Darters I got yesterday.



#34 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 05:31 PM

Michael - the darters that look like Seagreens are Swannanoa darters.  No Seagreens in the French Broad (hopefully).

 

Reference rule #1: Always know where your feet are.

 

Thanks for the correction Gerald


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#35 littlen

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 06:57 PM

I really like the Gilts from NC...a nice 'variety' that looks different from the ones I get in VA. I'll try to find a pic for comparison. Really cool catches!
Nick L.

#36 gerald

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 07:09 PM

3  = Banded (narrow bands, extend down to belly).   4+5 = Greenside (broader bands, blunt frog-like face).


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#37 taldridge0321

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 07:44 PM

3  = Banded (narrow bands, extend down to belly).   4+5 = Greenside (broader bands, blunt frog-like face).

Thanks, that's two new ones for me. I'm still working on the Minnows, using the Peterson book.



#38 taldridge0321

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 08:15 PM

I also found these after double checking. Maybe they can help with the id. This one had little black specks near the belly.Fletcher_+North+Carolina+_64_.JPG



#39 taldridge0321

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 08:15 PM

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#40 taldridge0321

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 08:29 PM

I really like the Gilts from NC...a nice 'variety' that looks different from the ones I get in VA. I'll try to find a pic for comparison. Really cool catches!

Yeah that would be great Nick, thanks!





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