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Minnow pics and ID questions/confirmation


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#1 JasonL

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Posted 29 May 2019 - 08:26 PM

Here are some minnow pics from this spring sampling in west KY with some tentative IDs. I'm not 100% on all of these so feel free to provide input.

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Mississippi silverside (Menidia audens) caught out of a flooded Ohio River oxbow


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Channel shiner (N. wickliffi) caught out of the same oxbow right next to the main river channel


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Sand shiner (N. stramineus) caught in medium sized creek over sand substrate. Looks like less than 8 anal fin rays to me.


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Bluntface shiner (C. camura) caught in headwater creek near TN border where this species is reportedly common.


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Redfin shiner (Lythrurus umbratilis)

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Ribbon shiner (Lythrurus fumeus)

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Channel shiner (N. wickliffi) caught directly out of Ohio River


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Bullhead minnow (Pimephales vigilax)


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Suckermouth minnow (Phenacobius mirabilis)

#2 Jconte

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:19 PM

Very nice! Unfortunately, I cannot help with the ID's.



#3 Fleendar the Magnificent

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:40 PM

Awesome photos!



#4 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 10:08 AM

I am familiar with most of these fish, and I believe you are spot on. I am not familiar with ribbon or bluntface shiners, but they look right. The Mississippi silversides is not a species I am familiar with either, but your fish doesn't seem to have quite the beak that brook silversides have, and the anal fin looks shorter. It doesn't continue past the rear of the second dorsal.  You should keep a phenacobius if you haven't already. There behavior is like a sucker raised by minnows.


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#5 michifish

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 10:34 AM

What is your photo tank?



#6 JasonL

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:25 PM

I am familiar with most of these fish, and I believe you are spot on. I am not familiar with ribbon or bluntface shiners, but they look right. The Mississippi silversides is not a species I am familiar with either, but your fish doesn't seem to have quite the beak that brook silversides have, and the anal fin looks shorter. It doesn't continue past the rear of the second dorsal.  You should keep a phenacobius if you haven't already. There behavior is like a sucker raised by minnows.


Thanks Matt

Normally we have mostly brook silversides around here . Lately I've seen a lot more of Mississippi silversides, which are typically less common and even a listed species in KY. I wonder if the Mississippi River flooding has "pushed" some up them up the Ohio River. These were caught around 20-30 nautical miles upstream from the Ohio/Mississippi confluence.

#7 JasonL

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:27 PM

What is your photo tank?


Google tenkarabum photo tank and they have them in various sizes.

#8 michifish

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Posted 02 June 2019 - 05:33 AM

Thanks.





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