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Posted 29 August 2007 - 08:30 PM

Sorry, by books I meant articles I read on the web.........

But I know that at least the book "Inland Fishes of Washington" published in the 1970's and with a new version in 2003 stated that.



Aha. The range of Tule perch has never extended outside of California, so that may be why it was not mentioned in Inland Fishes of Washington. As for the Web, well, a lot of things can be said on the Web without being reviewed or edited by other sources, which has made me skeptical of things posted on there.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 11:31 PM

Yes, I would agree.

One more question though: Why is the Russian river in California called the Russian river?

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 10:18 AM

One more question though: Why is the Russian river in California called the Russian river?


There was an early community of Russian settlers and trappers in that area. During my time in Sacramento there was (and still is) a large problem with the poaching of sturgeon for caviar :evil: in the Sacramento River and other Northern CA rivers and it was tied largely to the Russian Mafia.

From Wikipedia:
"HistoryThe river takes its name from the Russian trappers who explored the river in the early 19th century, and established their Fort Ross trade colony a few miles north of its mouth. They called it the Slavyanka River. The redwoods that lined its banks drew loggers to the river in the late 19th century.

According to the USGS, variant names of the Russian River include: Misallaako, Rio Ruso, Shabaikai, Slavianka, and Slavyanka."

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 07:51 PM

Sturgeon poaching is a big problem in russia too, that isn't an excuse though to start poaching here. Does anyone know what California is doing against that?

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 11:46 PM

Sturgeon poaching is a big problem in russia too, that isn't an excuse though to start poaching here. Does anyone know what California is doing against that?


If we had more game wardens there would be a lot more we could do, but there is a warden shortage right now(I think there's only about 200 or so for the entire state right now). Back in the day, when my dad was working for the DFG here, there was a much larger budget, but, funds have been reallocated in the past 20 years or so, thus resulting in cutbacks. I don't know what the Feds could do, but I'm sure they have the capability to do so if it fell within their jurisdiction.

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 02:31 PM

If we had more game wardens there would be a lot more we could do, but there is a warden shortage right now(I think there's only about 200 or so for the entire state right now). Back in the day, when my dad was working for the DFG here, there was a much larger budget, but, funds have been reallocated in the past 20 years or so, thus resulting in cutbacks. I don't know what the Feds could do, but I'm sure they have the capability to do so if it fell within their jurisdiction.


That's just downright bad! Where does the money from fishing licenses go to then?

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 03:17 PM

That's just downright bad! Where does the money from fishing licenses go to then?



That money still goes to conservation and enforcement, but there used to be funds from other sources that allowed them to do more than what they are capable of doing right now. In come politicians and the money goes elsewhere :-(

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 02:24 AM

Sorry, by books I meant articles I read on the web.........

But I know that at least the book "Inland Fishes of Washington" published in the 1970's and with a new version in 2003 stated that.

You can find Tuleperch Info in the book "Inland Fishes of California" and also in the Field Guide To "Freshwater Fishes" of California. I'm also interested in the Tuleperch because it is the only completely freshwater member of a complex of 20 viviparous perch species, which are similar in size and shape to sunfishes, and I love sunfish.

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 09:53 PM

Tule perch do best in a cooler tank with good flow, -if- they are caught very small. The few adults I've had never seemed to adjust to tank life, being extremely skittish, banging into the tank walls, and eventually succumbing to stress related symptoms.
When I lived in the central valley (15 years ago or so), a neighbor boy brought over a tule perch he'd caught that was squirting out babies into his creel. I put the fish and surviving babies in the quarantine tank, the female continue to pop out little tule perch, then died. I'd already given up on keeping tule perch in a tank at that point.
I ended up with about 12 juvenile tule perch, which I added to a tank (without much hope). As it turned out, they did very well for several years, and adjusted to flake without any problems.
They tended to hang out next to the filter return flow, shooting out to snatch bits of whatever got caught in the wash.
I'd bet they would do well in a cool riffle tank with darters.
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Posted 06 January 2008 - 11:59 PM

Geez I wish someone will breed tule perches in capitive and not from wild then we can obtain them legally. They are very interesting and im surprised that ALA had no idea that the tule perches existed. And there's little mention about tule perches' care and requirements in home aquarium. Maybe one day, that tule perch will able to joining the native fishes keeping. Who knows. So shame they are so very much interesting.




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