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Posted 12 August 2007 - 09:38 AM

Thought you all might find this interesting. The norhtern pike, one of the few freshwater fish to (naturally) inhabit both north america and eurasia shares the waters of Siberia/mongolia with the amur pike. Its coloring looks very different from the north american pikes in my opinion. More like one of those asian "rocket" gars in sold in the LFS.

http://www.jjphoto.d..._reichertii.htm

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 12:40 PM

If you go to aquaticpredators.com there is a huge thread to for this fish.

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 03:11 PM

I couldnt find it, could someone post a link to it?

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 03:41 PM

http://aquaticpredat...p...c=7028&st=0

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Posted 26 August 2007 - 08:31 PM

Thought you all might find this interesting. The norhtern pike, one of the few freshwater fish to (naturally) inhabit both north america and eurasia shares the waters of Siberia/mongolia with the amur pike. Its coloring looks very different from the north american pikes in my opinion. More like one of those asian "rocket" gars in sold in the LFS.

http://www.jjphoto.d..._reichertii.htm


Is anyone interested in other fish naturally distributed to both Eurasia and North America or fish similar to them?

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 01:38 PM

Is anyone interested in other fish naturally distributed to both Eurasia and North America or fish similar to them?



yes

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 06:09 PM

no

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 06:26 PM

Is anyone interested in other fish naturally distributed to both Eurasia and North America or fish similar to them?


I'm personally very interested in the fish of Europe and Eurasia as they are quite interesting in their own right..

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 06:31 PM

I wish I had a tank big enough for an Amur pike. I'm not seeing that in my future, though.

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 08:05 PM

ya know what I want to see... Northern/amur pike hybrid. that would be one hellofa fish.

I don't know why we don't have more publicity with people breeding hybrids like that. I think that would be an awesome thing to do as a career...... make your own super predator.

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 09:12 PM

ya know what I want to see... Northern/amur pike hybrid. that would be one hellofa fish.

I don't know why we don't have more publicity with people breeding hybrids like that. I think that would be an awesome thing to do as a career...... make your own super predator.

I think Martin's gonna love you! ;-)

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 09:18 PM

ya know what I want to see... Northern/amur pike hybrid. that would be one hellofa fish.

I don't know why we don't have more publicity with people breeding hybrids like that. I think that would be an awesome thing to do as a career...... make your own super predator.



What do you think a tiger muskellunge is?

Personally I'm not a fan of hybrids. I like fish the way nature made them. I do have to admit however that some hybrids are very striking, one example being the tiger trout. Beautiful fish, both browns and brooks are better however. As are the dozens of cutthroat and rainbow sub-species.

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 12:07 AM

ya know what I want to see... Northern/amur pike hybrid. that would be one hellofa fish.



You might be able to find this hybrid in Glendale Lake, PA. They were stocked there by the State.
The fish came from a trade with Russia in 1968 (Striped Bass & Steelhead for Amur Pike).

Some of the fish escaped in to Spring Creek from the hatchery in 1975. Then they lost all the Amur Pike broodstock in 1976.

There is some debate on weather any pure Amur Pike still exest in this country. Most don't think so.

But Glendale Lake can say it had every species in the Pike famaly at one time.

I always wanted to go to Mongolia to fish for Amur Pike, Tiamen, Lenook and the three species of Grayling that are there.

Mike

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 09:16 PM

I don't know why we don't have more publicity with people breeding hybrids like that. I think that would be an awesome thing to do as a career......



In the dog world, these are called "mutts". People aren't shelling out big bucks for 'em.

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 11:13 PM

In the dog world, these are called "mutts". People aren't shelling out big bucks for 'em.


Yeah but people do shell out big bucks for hybrid fishes, I think flowerhorns are a prime example of this. Besides, dogs aren't hybrids in the same sense that the fish in question are.

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 09:55 PM

Yeah, I guess that's true. To each his own. What's the point of slamming something that somebody else happens to enjoy? Some people enjoy hybrids and artificial color strains; I have a live tapeworm collection (they're all white - not much color there but I'm working on a dragonsblood strain of Taenia solium) ...

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 06:55 PM

Of course I know what a tiger muskie is, but these two parent fish live in the same lakes on the same continents, although muskies are more rare. The selling point would be that the pikes are from two different continents...not just the fact it's a hybrid.

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 07:46 AM

In the dog world, these are called "mutts". People aren't shelling out big bucks for 'em.


a lot of folks think that mutts make the best dogs...

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 03:33 PM

In the dog world, these are called "mutts". People aren't shelling out big bucks for 'em.


Ha! I see you haven't run across the "-Doodle" or "Designer dog" phenomenon yet. Idiots paying over $500 for mutts. It makes you laugh if it doesn't make you weep.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:24 PM

Yup. My wife is a professional pet stylist and breeds top quality standard poodles. She goes ballistic over these mutts. But purebred dogs of good quality consistently cost more money than these designer dogs. Her puppies go for $1000 at the bottom end, and there is no shortage of buyers.



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