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Florida to buy chunk of Everglades from sugar firm


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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:33 PM

Just saw this posted : http://www.reuters.c...lBrandChannel=0

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:25 PM

That is really fantastic news!

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:23 PM

Caveat #1: What to do with all the exotics in the Everglades?

Caveat #2: The land is sitting atop a major oil field :-)

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 04:27 PM

Looks good but I can't believe our fearless leaders won't muck it up somehow. Check out this link on the restoration project

http://www.sptimes.c...expert_wh.shtml

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 06:22 AM

Caveat #1: What to do with all the exotics in the Everglades?


It sucks that there are so many invasives that have become established in the Everglades. To me, however, it really doesn't matter in the "grand scheme" of things. It is about providing the area required for a hydraulicalic conveyance of waters while at the same time providing biological treatments of those waters so that a healthy ecosystem can support itself. Granted, invasives can destabilize an ecosystem, but everything balances out eventually. Who care what kind of snake it is....as long as its a snake and not a golf course.-

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 09:46 AM

Looks good but I can't believe our fearless leaders won't muck it up somehow. Check out this link on the restoration project

http://www.sptimes.c...expert_wh.shtml


Yeah, the COE is at it again... the plans are looking more and more like an engineering/piping project than a restoration project. In addition to the fact that it may not be an actual "restoration" plan, it makes me wonder which would be less expensive: to do all of the grand engineering and construction, or to just buy out the agriculture and fill in the ditches.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 07:47 PM

Yeah, the COE is at it again... the plans are looking more and more like an engineering/piping project than a restoration project. In addition to the fact that it may not be an actual "restoration" plan, it makes me wonder which would be less expensive: to do all of the grand engineering and construction, or to just buy out the agriculture and fill in the ditches.


Well, it's great that the nitrogen/phosphate hose is gonna get cut off. As I investigate more and more "invasives", I find more and more nitrophilic plants that are lovin' our eutrophication. There are some that fall out of this realm (like spotted knapweed), but for many, cut off their nitrogen, and they drop off quickly

However, yeah, I smell more Crusty White Guy ™ antics at play here: Like the dude that approved buying it plays golf with the guy that sold it, the guy who's in charge of the future plan AND the guy who's gonna restore it.

I hate to be so cynical, but it reaks of "Greenwash".

If they wanted to "restore" it (or go for a more attainable goal, like "rehabilitate" or "ecologically improve" it, since it's been in cultivation for so long), they'd let the pulses go through as they happen. The plant community thrives on non-linear disturbance (ergo, the "invasives", with their linear supply of nutrient enrichment). Not linear engineering.

Speaking of which... What happens when sea level goes up 2 meters?

Now you know why they killed the Ecologist first in the book/movie Dune. ;)

Todd "The Coosa and Cahaba Are Still Unprotected" Crail

Edited by farmertodd, 26 June 2008 - 07:49 PM.




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