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pickerel or pike

Started by Guest_Warmouth19_* , Jul 18 2009 10:41 AM

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#1 Guest_Warmouth19_*

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 10:41 AM

i got these 2 in different spots i think there both pickerels. [attachment=8797:pike 003.JPG]i could only post one pic but they both look the same

#2 Guest_panfisherteen_*

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 02:19 PM

They are definately pickerel, Im 95% sure thats a grass pickerel (unless chains are in your area, but I doubt that).

#3 Guest_GottaCatchEmAll_*

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 05:21 PM

I would actually say redfin pickerel. Their markings are thicker than a grass pickerel. That would be my guess, but panfisherteen might know better, I just started getting into pickerel.

#4 Guest_panfisherteen_*

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 10:32 AM

if it were a redfin id think there be at least a tinge of red in it's fins, then again i could be wrong. ive kinda educated myself on what grass pickerel look like since theres a lake near me that has an isolated population of them.

#5 Guest_Kanus_*

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 11:05 AM

Redfin pickerel are an Atlantic Slope fish. You wouldn't be seeing them anywhere near NW Ohio...at least we hope not. I think Grass Pickerel.

#6 Guest_GottaCatchEmAll_*

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 03:02 PM

Yeah, you guys are probably right, although their range actually does cover the whole state of Ohio.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 07:38 AM

It is a Grass Pickerel.

Yeah, you guys are probably right, although their range actually does cover the whole state of Ohio.

That is because a Redfin and Grass Pickerel are the same thing - just different subspecies. The actual species name is Redfin Pickerel, which makes it all confusing. Any range map of the whole species will be called Redfin Pickerel and cover all of Ohio.

Andy

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 11:00 AM

Not neccessarily, it would be like calling an aurora trout a brook trout. It is recognized as a different fish (via subspecies), thats why they're named grass pickerel and not redfin pickerel.

#9 Guest_andyavram_*

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 03:08 PM

Not neccessarily, it would be like calling an aurora trout a brook trout. It is recognized as a different fish (via subspecies), thats why they're named grass pickerel and not redfin pickerel.

Necassarily. It is the same exact species Esox americanus they just decided to not make a logical common name for the two subspecies. You are technically correct to call a Grass Pickerel a Redfin Pickerel but you cannot call a Redfin Pickerel (E.a. americanus) a Grass Pickerel.

In a range map they typically only cover species in fish books. Which is the context I was replying to, hence the quote box for:

Yeah, you guys are probably right, although their range actually does cover the whole state of Ohio.

For the entry under Redfin Pickerel (Esox americanus) it would show all of Ohio as they are the same fish.

Clear as mud?

#10 Guest_CATfishTONY_*

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 03:39 PM

Necassarily. It is the same exact species Esox americanus they just decided to not make a logical common name for the two subspecies. You are technically correct to call a Grass Pickerel a Redfin Pickerel but you cannot call a Redfin Pickerel (E.a. americanus) a Grass Pickerel.

In a range map they typically only cover species in fish books. Which is the context I was replying to, hence the quote box for: For the entry under Redfin Pickerel (Esox americanus) it would show all of Ohio as they are the same fish.

Clear as mud?

thanks for the info.i see the light now.i had a grass pickerel E.a. americanus and a few called it a redfin Esox americanus.