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#1 Robert Lamb

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 09:39 PM

Not sure if anyone's interested but I figured this would be a good place to document my attempt at this. I have made myself a goal to photograph all of the species of Nothonotus in-situ before the year is up. Not the easiest but fortunately my home in Chattanooga puts me within three hours of every species except juliae, moorei, and rubrum. As of right now I've only gotten 2 species (rufilineatus and jordani) out of a total of 21. Tomorrow I will (hopefully) be heading to the Tellico and Citico creek to add chlorobranchium and vulneratus to the list. If anyone knows a spot in the Hiwassee river where I can stop and find camurum relatively easy it would be greatly appreciated. 
 

Small redline male from the Wilkerson branch of Wolftever creek just a few minutes from home. Not the greatest picture but I hope to be able to snag some better ones in clearer waters tomorrow.

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My second species is the greenbreast darter from the famous Conasauga river snorkel hole a few weeks ago. Had a great time meeting up with Derek Wheaton and Andrew Zimmerman and saw a few lifers.

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#2 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 27 April 2021 - 10:46 PM

Cool project, and nice shots! I can confirm seeing vulneratum in the lower Tellico and chlorobranchium in the middle to upper Citico. I doubt you'll find camurum in the Hiwassee. I don't recall ever hearing of anyone seeing them there. You might have to go up to the Little for them.

 

Let me know if you happen to make it out to the Ozarks for juliae and moorei.



#3 littlen

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 06:14 AM

*Following*

Very nice pictures.  I may have a soft spot for Redlines.  Good luck on your quest.


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#4 Robert Lamb

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 07:41 AM

Cool project, and nice shots! I can confirm seeing vulneratum in the lower Tellico and chlorobranchium in the middle to upper Citico. 

Thanks! 

With the greenfins, can they be found around where the parking is or do I need to hike upstream? If so, do you remember how far?



#5 L Link

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 11:33 AM

I found a greenfin somewhere around the Jake Best campground, but I assume they go farther up as well

#6 Robert Lamb

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Posted 28 April 2021 - 08:38 PM

I went the back route from Indian Boundary so the first campsite I came to was where I got in. Turned out to be a perfect spot, or at least as close to perfect as I was likely to find. Tons of juveniles around 1 inch or so were everywhere but the adults were much more elusive. I had originally planned for today to be a 2 spot trip but I ended up spending the "whole day" (about 5 hours actually) chasing after the greenfins. While regrettably I was not able to snag an in-situ picture of the gorgeous colored up males I did get some of one of the larger females and a younger male. I was also able to get a big male in the dipnet for an in-hand picture. Interestingly enough, besides the greenfins, greensides were the only other darter I spotted at this site. There were also large amounts of Tennessee shiners as per usual in the mountain streams and quite a few warpaints and saffrons were there as well. It was my first time seeing non-breeding saffrons and they were a lot more impressive than I had thought.

 

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#7 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 10:33 AM

Nice shots! I'm glad the trip was a success. It's always feels good when finding a new species works out as planned. I didn't see any saffrons up there, so if that's really what you saw that's good to know.



#8 Robert Lamb

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 12:19 PM

It really does feel good! Hopefully the next expedition will pan out as well. Next target is N. etowahae for Saturday if it doesn't rain too much tonight/tomorrow. Hopefully they'll be as cooperative as the greenbreasts were in the Conasauga. 
 

 

I didn't see any saffrons up there, so if that's really what you saw that's good to know.

 

I was pretty convinced they were saffrons but after looking at some online pictures I'm not 100% sure, but the most striking trait that I noticed was they had an iridescent purple spot on the head along with the typical yellow line down the side. Shiners are not my strong suit, might have just been a large TN 



#9 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 01:14 PM

Hard to say without a photo. I will note that smoky dace (rosyside dace split) are up there.



#10 Robert Lamb

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 01:22 PM

That's probably what is was then. Based on the pictures google pulls up it looks fairly close to what I remember



#11 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 01:32 PM

OK, that makes sense. I remember being surprised to not see any saffrons up there since they're close by in a neighboring drainage.



#12 L Link

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 03:06 PM

Hard to say without a photo. I will note that smoky dace (rosyside dace split) are up there.

I was up there a couple weeks ago and saw a ton of them, so a very plausible candidate

#13 Robert Lamb

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Posted 01 May 2021 - 09:42 PM

So plans were changed, instead of the Etowah I decided to take a bid on the Duck River to hopefully knock out 3 species in one day (denoncourti, aquali, and camurum). Sadly I think my good luck for the week had run a little thin after such a good experience with the greenfins. Water was very turbid and poor for snorkeling, although an attempt was made. In my haste I had also forgotten to bring my dipnet and had to resort to using a 5 inch aquarium net to attempt captures for the photo tank. Three separate spots were visited, and at the first I turned up what I believe to be a female denoncourti, but could very well also be a small redline female as they can look fairly similar. 2nd spot yielded no fish that I was able to catch, but the 3rd spot helped make the trip worth it with my lifer aqualis, even though I was unable to get an in-situ. Another interesting find at that spot was a dead lamprey, and a live one was seen too but evaded my tiny net pretty easily.

 

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