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Treat SMB With Anchor Worms

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#1 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 09:43 AM

I have had my SMB for about two months and I have been treating him for fin rot with API Aquarium Salt for about 6 weeks now. That seems to be getting better, but now he has three anchor worms by that fin. Perhaps this has been the problem the whole time. There is a thread detailing the fin rot. http://forum.nanfa.o...e-white-cloudy/

They are thin and clear and have a forked tail. At first I thought it was just some weird scale problem.

Can I treat him with Dimilin? Where can I purchase this stuff? I have a PetSmart close by.

Will this hurt my bluegill, sunfish, or brown bullhead while treating him?

How long should I treat?

Should I remove my carbon filter pillows?

I think this may be why he has been laying on the bottom of the tank and rubbing up against the driftwood. Also, this might be why he has the clamped fins.

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#2 Guest_star5328_*

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 10:51 AM

I just plucked two anchor worms off one of my pickerel...He seems less stressed since doing it. Though it seems this smallie is pretty stressed at this point, dunno if you want to put him through something like that since he'd be out of the water.

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#3 Guest_schambers_*

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 07:27 PM

Carbon will remove medication from the water. Always remove it when you are using any type of medication.

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#4 Guest_wargreen_*

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 11:27 AM

This is an e-zines article on how to treat your goldfish (Ive used it on Sunfish and rosyreds).

Removing Anchor Worms with Tweezers

This method of treatment for anchor worms is not one that I will suggest people to use. You will however be able to see these worms found on your goldfish as they are like small green hairlike parasites seen attached to your goldfish. They are quite easily seen and can be removed with tweezers but the only thing wrong with this method is you don't see all the small anchor worms that could be attached to the goldfish already which are beginning to grow. Anchor worms start off small that end up turning into larger worms as they begin to feed on the body fluid of the goldfish which then you will see later on without a microscope. This method may work but you will never know if they reproduced in your tank or pond and are just waiting to find a new host.

Anchor Worm Treatment Medication

In order to know for sure you have rid yourself of anchor worms once and for all people should strongly use anchor worm medication to eliminate these external parasites. There are many types of anchor worm medications on the market and here are just a few people can choose: Anchors Away, Dimilin, Proform LA and Potassium Permanganate. These anchor worm treatment medications work great and will eliminate the parasites affecting your fish.

Anchors Away

To treat your fish using anchors away make sure you always follow the manufacturers recommended dosage. Here is how you treat your fish using this medication:

1. Perform a 25% water change before treatments.
2. Always make sure you remove the activated carbon from your filter.
3. Add one teaspoon for every 40 gallons
4. Treat every 6 days for up to 3 weeks

Anchors away is a great product and effective at eliminating anchor worms and other parasites as well. You will notice after the first week of treatment that they will be falling off your goldfish.

Dimilin

Dimilin is another great product on the market that will treat fish suffering from anchor worms. Here is how you treat your goldfish for anchor worms using Dimilin:

1. Shake bottle very well before use.
2. Remove activated carbon.
3. Add 1 tablespoon for every 60 gallons
4. Wait 14 days to see if anchor worms are completely gone
5. If not, repeat dosage again and do not do a water change.
6. After second treatment is complete, wait another 14 days to make sure parasites are eliminated then perform a water change removing some of the chemical.

Proform LA

This is one of the best forms of treatment for anchor worms and fish lice on the market. It is really safe for humans to use and is a very low maintenance method of treatment. What's great about Proform LA is that it can be used in any water temperature where some can only be used as low as 50 degrees fahrenheit. You can do three treatments one week apart and it's a fairly low cost medication to use as 1 pint will treat 5000 gallons and 1 quart will treat 10,000 gallons of water. This anchor worm medication will not harm turtles, frogs or snails. Follow recommended dosage

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#5 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 12:35 PM

Thanks for your replies! Has anybody used Jungle Labs Parasite Clear? Does it really stain aquarium decor? I have driftwood, rocks, and 3M Colorquartz sand.

Is this stuff safe for my bullhead?

Is it ok to treat in my 210? I don't have anywhere else to put my fish.

I am buying 100 tablets, so that should be enough to treat.

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#6 Guest_AussiePeter_*

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 04:35 PM

Should I remove my carbon filter pillows?

Best place for them is probably the garbage can. :-)

I wouldn't waste my money, better to fill your filter with filter material rather than junk. Unless you pay big bucks and buy really really good carbon it usually clogs up pretty quick and doesn't do much after that. I don't know any "good" fish keepers that use it (good = folks with a large number of tanks who have kept fish for >10-20 years).

Cheers
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#7 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 07:10 PM

Best place for them is probably the garbage can. I wouldn't waste my money, better to fill your filter with filter material rather than junk. Unless you pay big bucks and buy really really good carbon it usually clogs up pretty quick and doesn't do much after that. I don't know any "good" fish keepers that use it (good = folks with a large number of tanks who have kept fish for >10-20 years).

Cheers
Peter

I really appreciate your input. I am new to the hobby, so this kind of information is really helpful. I have talked to many who have suggested that I not bother with them. They are part of my filter trays in the sump that I bought. It is a Marineland Model 4. I just left them in there since I am new and figured they are the way to go. I may remove them for my medication and not put them back in. I may opt to put another coarse filter of something in place of that tray. Thanks again!

BJ

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#8 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:52 PM

I purchased the 100 tablet version of Parasite Clear. I have 260 gallons, so I will probably only dose like 230 of it to be sure I don't kill anything.

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#9 Guest_wargreen_*

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:03 PM

Tell us how the Jungle labs parasite cure works, Ive only used Dimilin ....and it worked quite well.

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#10 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 08:32 AM

Tell us how the Jungle labs parasite cure works, Ive only used Dimilin ....and it worked quite well.

Will do. I think this has that in it as well, but they label it as difluebe???? something or other. I will let you know.

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#11 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:34 AM

Will do. I think this has that in it as well, but they label it as difluebe???? something or other. I will let you know.

I have 30 gallons in my sump with my 210 gallon tank. I treated the tank with Parasite Clear for 200 gallons to make sure that I don't overdose.

It did turn my tank a green hue. Is this typical?

BTW. The active ingredients are praziquantel, diflubenzuron, metronidazole, and acriflavine.

I just recently added a rock bass that has black spot disease on his fins. I hope this clears that up as well.

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#12 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:36 AM

It also says that the treatment can be repeated up to two times with 48 hours and a 25% water change in between treatments. To make sure I rid the tank of anchor worms, should I do the two additional treatments?

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#13 Guest_wargreen_*

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:50 PM

It also says that the treatment can be repeated up to two times with 48 hours and a 25% water change in between treatments. To make sure I rid the tank of anchor worms, should I do the two additional treatments?

Details:

Wait 48 hours between treatments.
Remove activated carbon.
Change 25% of the water before each new treatment.
For anchor worms, repeat treatment up to three times, once a week, for three weeks. For fish lice, treat once a week for three to five weeks.
DO NOT OVERDOSE.
BJ I believe Jungle labs is saying to treat for 3 weeks to completely get rid of the Anchor worm....but I would contact them to make sure.

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#14 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 08:55 AM

Well, I plucked the adults from my smallmouth two weeks ago and went through three treatments of Parasite Clear. I thought everything was good. About a week later I started to see lots of small white worms attached to the fins of all my other fish! They are definitely anchor worms. One day I took all the fish out and plucked what I could see, but they problem with these things is, especially when they are small, it is really hard to see the worms out of water. Even, when I know where they are. I had the fish laying on a wet towel and then I used another wet towel to gently swipe their fins hoping to get them off. I think this worked a little bit.

I finally found Jungle Labs Anchors Away at my local fish store. The active ingredient is diflubenzuron (Dimilin).

Why is it sold for pond use only? It is the only source of pure dimilin I could find for treating my anchor worms. I followed the directions for the gallonage that they recommend and treated.

Can you overdose diflubenzuron in a tank? I thought about adding a bit extra to ensure these things are exterminated.

Another problem I have is that I have found three leeches in the tank now too and killed them as well. Hopefully the Anchors Away kills them too.

Edited by bjbass, 10 October 2010 - 08:55 AM.

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#15 Guest_AussiePeter_*

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 09:51 AM

Can you overdose diflubenzuron in a tank? I thought about adding a bit extra to ensure these things are exterminated.

I wouldn't overdose, supposedly that stuff is pretty nasty. I've used it at the correct dosage many times and it works just great. Just becareful when you suck on your siphon hose not to take a mouthful!

Cheers
Peter

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#16 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 10:12 AM

I wouldn't overdose, supposedly that stuff is pretty nasty. I've used it at the correct dosage many times and it works just great. Just becareful when you suck on your siphon hose not to take a mouthful!

Cheers
Peter

Thanks for the reply. I will stick to 6 tsp then. Should I be worried about putting my hands/arms in the tank when it is treated with this stuff then too?

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#17 Guest_AussiePeter_*

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 08:20 PM

I'd be rinsing myself off as soon as I am done. Unless you have scratches or get it your eyes/nose/mouth then it should be fine. And I'm sure one dose wouldn't do any great harm, but swimming in it daily for 3 months may not be so good!

Cheers
Peter

Thanks for the reply. I will stick to 6 tsp then. Should I be worried about putting my hands/arms in the tank when it is treated with this stuff then too?

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#18 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 17 October 2010 - 01:14 PM

I'd be rinsing myself off as soon as I am done. Unless you have scratches or get it your eyes/nose/mouth then it should be fine. And I'm sure one dose wouldn't do any great harm, but swimming in it daily for 3 months may not be so good!

Cheers
Peter

This is what Jungle Labs had to say.

"This is a highly effective product and quite strong so only suggested for ponds the dosage is for larger water containers but your aquarium is very large. You will want to keep a close eye on your fish and quickly put the carbon back in and do a 25% water change if you see them getting into trouble. Be mindful of the dosage which would really be only 5 teaspoons. It could take a week before you see anything happening with the anchor worms. Do a 25% water change and then add 5 more teaspoons every 6 days for three times. Do not use with snails or other crustaceans."

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#19 Guest_bjbass_*

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:31 PM

Well, I think I am finally rid of these things! I ended up treating for a few weeks with Jungle Labs Anchors Away. This is made of diflubenzuron and was the only thing that ended up working. I had to treat forever though and I am hoping that I don't jinx myself because I haven't seen one in about three weeks. Let's hope this thing is done!

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#20 littlen

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 01:38 PM

I'm still battling them on my two juvenile Muskie. Worst ectoparasite ever! I have added UV filtration to the system, so we'll see how that slows them (well at least the free-swimming ones).

Nick L.