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Setting Up Small Native Tanks


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#1 Guest_Fatman_*

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 04:17 AM

Originally I had set up a 40 gallon breeder to be used as a native tank filled with pygmy sunfish and pygmy killis...
However, I ended up changing some things around in another tank and it ended up being turned into a tropical tank.

Anyways though, I have a few tanks that I figure I could easily turn into native tanks and am looking for some suggestions and advice.
Any tank would be planted, and I would most likely use the Walstad Method for all of these tank.

The first tank is actually a 10 gallon cherry shrimp tank right now. I want to rescape it though and add in some Pygmy Sunfish (probably Okefenokees.
My questions with this tank are:
If I added pygmy sunfish to the shrimp tank would their be any issues with sunfish eating shrimp or shrimp eating fry?
Also should I keep the sponge filter running in this tank along with making it heavily planted? What about the heater?

The second one would either be a 10 or 15 gallon tank. I was thinking of doing killis or darters in this tank.... any suggestions though???

The final one is a cylindrical tank that is about 12" tall and has a radius of about 9.5" (it holds about 3 gallons). It has an under gravel filter that I would take out and either do a few tall plants or driftwood with java moss and jave fern, maybe even an anubias nana, growing on it. For lighting I would use my desk lamp. I don't remember what the wattage is, but there are 3 fluorescent bulbs in there. O and this tank wouldn't have a lid..... Anything I could put in here?

We've also got some glass 2.5 gallon tanks at work for cheap.... even the 10 gallons aren't bad for just the tank.... I could also probably find some cheap small tanks on Craigslist.

Edited by Fatman, 07 September 2010 - 04:24 AM.


#2 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:59 AM

The first tank is actually a 10 gallon cherry shrimp tank right now. I want to rescape it though and add in some Pygmy Sunfish (probably Okefenokees.
My questions with this tank are:
If I added pygmy sunfish to the shrimp tank would their be any issues with sunfish eating shrimp or shrimp eating fry?
Also should I keep the sponge filter running in this tank along with making it heavily planted? What about the heater?

The sunfish will eat the young shrimps, and maybe even harass the adults some... but this should work out OK.
No filter or heater re needed.

The second one would either be a 10 or 15 gallon tank. I was thinking of doing killis or darters in this tank.... any suggestions though???


I would try leprolucania omatta in a small tank like this... they are really nice looking fish, but dont compete well with other fish for food ususally. Maybe could put some bluefin killis in there as well, not sure.


The final one is a cylindrical tank that is about 12" tall and has a radius of about 9.5" (it holds about 3 gallons). It has an under gravel filter that I would take out and either do a few tall plants or driftwood with java moss and jave fern, maybe even an anubias nana, growing on it. For lighting I would use my desk lamp. I don't remember what the wattage is, but there are 3 fluorescent bulbs in there. O and this tank wouldn't have a lid..... Anything I could put in here?


bluefins would do better in here... but then again so would the Elassoma...
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:46 PM

Thanks Michael!
I was considering pygmy and bluefin killis for the 10 or 15, so as long as I can find them that idea will probably happen.
I may use the 3 gallon for a pair of Elassoma.... just not sure which species.
I may also have some least killis or mosquito fish in a tank as well...

And the 10 gallon with shrimp and Okefenokees is almost definitely going to happen. It just might take a bit to get the money together for them.

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 02:42 PM

And the 10 gallon with shrimp and Okefenokees is almost definitely going to happen. It just might take a bit to get the money together for them.


To anyone who has kept Elassoma before:
Do the shrimp eat the Elassoma fry?

I've been watching some videos online of the fry
and I realized how tiny and defenseless they are.
I'm wondering if the shrimp might snack on them.

Video of someone's pygmy sunfish fry from youtube:

There are shrimp in my own Elassoma gilberti tank and I'm starting to worry.

Edited by Okiimiru, 12 September 2010 - 02:46 PM.




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