Wow! Awesome footage and beautiful pictures. How long do the mountain lampreys live after spawning? These were all amazing to watch. Love the photo of the stream too. The sunlight shining through the trees on it is really nice. Makes me want to be out in the water. Thanks for sharing.
Appalachian Aquatic Delights
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:41 AM
Thanks for sharing, Todd. In addition to the education value of this thread, it also serves as a great recruitment tool for NANFA. I have been working with a variety of people at my new job and I've been promoting NANFA all the way. When I describe some of the activities and interests of NANFA, this thread (and many others on this site) continue to be shining examples of the passion and interest our membership has in promoting education and conservation of our native fishes.
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Posted 30 July 2011 - 09:23 PM
Nice pictures and videos.
Hellbenders are neat animals. I've seen a few in western North Carolina where you would not suspect them.
Hellbenders are neat animals. I've seen a few in western North Carolina where you would not suspect them.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:49 PM
I accompanied Todd on parts of his trip...actually if I remember correctly maybe a day or two at the end of his journey.
We enjoyed several sites loaded with Tangerine Darters fluttering in a liquid breeze and a beautiful headwaters stream inhabited by Tennessee Dace in several plunge pools.
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I soon departed and met up with the Freshwaters Illustrated crew as they filmed River Chub nests in the smokies over the Memorial Day weekend.
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And this was my first experience with liquid sunshine….
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A short video clip of this nest can be seen here.
What an all around gorgeous place.
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On my route home, I stopped again to play with more Tangerines to discover a Whitetail Shiner party.
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…tearing each other apart.
A series of stills from this battle can be seen here.
We enjoyed several sites loaded with Tangerine Darters fluttering in a liquid breeze and a beautiful headwaters stream inhabited by Tennessee Dace in several plunge pools.
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2 downloadsI soon departed and met up with the Freshwaters Illustrated crew as they filmed River Chub nests in the smokies over the Memorial Day weekend.
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5 downloadsAnd this was my first experience with liquid sunshine….
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4 downloadsA short video clip of this nest can be seen here.
What an all around gorgeous place.
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2 downloadsOn my route home, I stopped again to play with more Tangerines to discover a Whitetail Shiner party.
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2 downloadsWhat are these tubercles for?
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4 downloads…tearing each other apart.
A series of stills from this battle can be seen here.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:11 PM
wow.....that is all
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:14 PM
Well Lance you are certainly raising the bar... now we are not talking about taking pictures... we are talking about photography... very nice. I particularly like the short focal length on some of those shots...
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:07 PM
I like how you put that Michael... Photography, not taking pictures. Lance's work is getting absolutely amazing, isn't it? I am learning a ton from him.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:39 PM
Wow, those are beautiful. Can we buy a NANFA calendar, with each month a different photo as beautiful as that 'liquid sunshine'? I'm going to make that my desktop background...
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:43 PM
Nice photos, Lance! That's some snoody gear involved right there -- I love the crayfish spectator on that last Cyprinella photo.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:39 PM
Wow, those are beautiful. Can we buy a NANFA calendar, with each month a different photo as beautiful as that 'liquid sunshine'? I'm going to make that my desktop background...
That is an awesome idea. Casper, we should add that to the store. I want 2 already!!!
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:19 PM
Lance is a young master.
I do not recall ever seeing the orangish fins on a Whitetail Shiner and i have seen a lot in breeding mode. Never seen 4 in a vigorous biting tussle though. Are we 100% sure those are Whitetails? Their bodies tell me so but the color is really throwing me. Perhaps a regional variation? Map 138 in Petersons shows the seperate and mysterious population on the other side of the Mississippi but you were in TN i believe. I wonder if Lance manipulated his color correction much? The breeding males in my area are all very pearlescent... but that orange red is confusing me.
Regarding the calendar suggestion, i have thought a calendar would be appreciated by a few of NANFA's members but not enough to justify the time, expense, printing quanity needed and then a very limited shelf life. NANFA items have not been selling well these last few years and we still have a lot of the wonderful Virginia shirts that Lance's father illustrated though we only printed 75. And i think it is one of the best NANFA shirts printed. Not much motivation for me to add more items.
We certainly have plenty of wonderful pictures to pick from. The real goal would be to publish a NANFA logoed calendar that would be available to the general public like at Barnes and Nobles, Books A Million, etc in their calendar racks during the holiday sales season. Tapping into those distributers would be challenging but enlightning to anyone in the general public who picks one up.
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I do see tropical fish calendars, those tropical folks would be impressed to see what is living here under their noses!
Someone care to chase the idea? It would certainly bring more awareness to our native fishes and to NANFA.
I do not recall ever seeing the orangish fins on a Whitetail Shiner and i have seen a lot in breeding mode. Never seen 4 in a vigorous biting tussle though. Are we 100% sure those are Whitetails? Their bodies tell me so but the color is really throwing me. Perhaps a regional variation? Map 138 in Petersons shows the seperate and mysterious population on the other side of the Mississippi but you were in TN i believe. I wonder if Lance manipulated his color correction much? The breeding males in my area are all very pearlescent... but that orange red is confusing me.
Regarding the calendar suggestion, i have thought a calendar would be appreciated by a few of NANFA's members but not enough to justify the time, expense, printing quanity needed and then a very limited shelf life. NANFA items have not been selling well these last few years and we still have a lot of the wonderful Virginia shirts that Lance's father illustrated though we only printed 75. And i think it is one of the best NANFA shirts printed. Not much motivation for me to add more items.
We certainly have plenty of wonderful pictures to pick from. The real goal would be to publish a NANFA logoed calendar that would be available to the general public like at Barnes and Nobles, Books A Million, etc in their calendar racks during the holiday sales season. Tapping into those distributers would be challenging but enlightning to anyone in the general public who picks one up.
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I do see tropical fish calendars, those tropical folks would be impressed to see what is living here under their noses!
Someone care to chase the idea? It would certainly bring more awareness to our native fishes and to NANFA.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:28 PM
It seemed to be more of a gamble for water clarity, but there are many miles to explore in the Emory River next spring. I still can't get over the tangerines at Clear Creek. Just couldn't photograph them.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:02 PM
We certainly have plenty of wonderful pictures to pick from. The real goal would be to publish a NANFA logoed calendar that would be available to the general public like at Barnes and Nobles, Books A Million, etc in their calendar racks during the holiday sales season. Tapping into those distributers would be challenging but enlightning to anyone in the general public who picks one up.
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I do see tropical fish calendars, those tropical folks would be impressed to see what is living here under their noses!
Where do the tropical fish calendars get sold? I am thinking they might get good sales of they were advertised in fly fishing magazines. I wonder what a small ad for a non-profit might cost? Or perhaps we could pair up with TU somehow?
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:10 PM
Regarding the calendar suggestion, i have thought a calendar would be appreciated by a few of NANFA's members but not enough to justify the time, expense, printing quanity needed and then a very limited shelf life. NANFA items have not been selling well these last few years and we still have a lot of the wonderful Virginia shirts that Lance's father illustrated though we only printed 75. And i think it is one of the best NANFA shirts printed. Not much motivation for me to add more items.
I would certainly be willing to buy several calenders to distribute to friends and family, or put up at work. Maybe even some info. printed on the page along with each picture to help inform about the 'fish of the month' would be an inviting way to educate. I know printing can be quite costly though. Maybe we could do a pole or something to find out how many members would be interested in purchasing calenders?
With all of the beautiful pictures I've seen at this site, how could anyone ever pick out only 12 each year?
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 08:43 PM
Thanks all for your kind words
Todd tried showing me the elusive Olive Darter and after several minutes flipping rocks getting mere muddy glimpses as they skirted through the sediment plumes to the next rock cavity, I gave up. Several days later, after I began losing light from the developing clouds and completed exhausted myself with the Whitetail Shiner party, I pushed myself downstream of the riffle with intent of going home to find Olive Darters swimming around...everywhere.
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I've seen them with orange on distal portions of their fins but never with this saturation. I'm unsure I've experienced them this fired up before though - red noses were new to me as well.I do not recall ever seeing the orangish fins on a Whitetail Shiner and i have seen a lot in breeding mode. Never seen 4 in a vigorous biting tussle though. Are we 100% sure those are Whitetails? Their bodies tell me so but the color is really throwing me. Perhaps a regional variation? Map 138 in Petersons shows the seperate and mysterious population on the other side of the Mississippi but you were in TN i believe. I wonder if Lance manipulated his color correction much? The breeding males in my area are all very pearlescent... but that orange red is confusing me.
Man Todd, that's how I felt that entire day. Stupid 4wheelers in mass.It seemed to be more of a gamble for water clarity, but there are many miles to explore in the Emory River next spring. I still can't get over the tangerines at Clear Creek. Just couldn't photograph them.
Todd tried showing me the elusive Olive Darter and after several minutes flipping rocks getting mere muddy glimpses as they skirted through the sediment plumes to the next rock cavity, I gave up. Several days later, after I began losing light from the developing clouds and completed exhausted myself with the Whitetail Shiner party, I pushed myself downstream of the riffle with intent of going home to find Olive Darters swimming around...everywhere.
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 08:30 AM
I still wonder what changed... What time of day was it that they were out like that? It wasn't any time that we hadn't been there before, right?
I hadn't had a chance to see this picture yet. Vahry nice-ah!
I hadn't had a chance to see this picture yet. Vahry nice-ah!
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 11:00 AM
Same time period we were there days earlier - middle afternoon. It clouded up big time though. If you could see the EXIF data for that picture...it was dark.
Give me some earplugs and a drysuit. I'll snorkel for 48 hours and tell ya what I see
Give me some earplugs and a drysuit. I'll snorkel for 48 hours and tell ya what I see
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 08:46 PM
This is amazing. Now you have me thinking, which always proceeds spending money.
Absolutely gorgeous photography. Thanks.
Absolutely gorgeous photography. Thanks.
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 12:47 AM
Awesome photos and videos guys! I would love to get to see those species someday. You guys are really raising the bar when it comes to documenting our native fishes.
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Posted 17 September 2011 - 08:11 AM
I do not recall ever seeing the orangish fins on a Whitetail Shiner and i have seen a lot in breeding mode. Never seen 4 in a vigorous biting tussle though. Are we 100% sure those are Whitetails? Their bodies tell me so but the color is really throwing me. Perhaps a regional variation?
I was reading some old original descriptions this week (as some of you know that I am doing quite a lot of recently) and while reading this one
Jordan and Brayton 1878 On the distribution of the fishes of the Alleghany Region of South Carolina,Georgia, and Tennessee, with desciiptions of new or little known species
I ran across this comment. Note that the scientific name was a little different back then, but we are talking about the same fish Cyprinella galactura the whitetail shiner.
Photogenis galacturus (Cope) Jor. Very abundant everywhere in the Cumberland. Some specimens from Nashville have the caudal fin pale red.
So the old guys in 1878 knew about this reddish tint on some whitetails. Lance, I didn't follow all the geography in the thread. Could it be said that the place you were at was from the general area of Nashville?
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